Adanna:
It starts from a place of love, it really does start from a place of love.
In light of what鈥檚 been happening with the Black Lives Matter movement, and the fact that we鈥檙e parents to two young kids who are biracial, we鈥檝e used the opportunity to shed light on what鈥檚 really been happening, our experience with racism as a couple and more practically how to deal with it. How we as parents can incorporate racial education鈥
David:
Absolutely.
Adanna:
鈥ery early on in our households, because we believe that it all starts at home.
David:
Exactly, so when it comes to obviously talking about racism and teaching your kids racial equality, the age of your children of course matters a lot.
If you have teenagers you can probably sit them down and you know, properly directly address it, and talk about the footage everybody isseeing on TV鈥
Adanna:
Yeah.
David:
鈥hereas of course if you have children in our鈥 the age group that our kids are in, which is two and four, you can鈥檛 really do that.
So what we believe is very, very important, and we have done with our children is to rather incorporate small little elements into the daily life.
Games, the books, the鈥 you know, toys they have etc.
And especially we feel with books that they can see there are certain heroes, you know鈥
Adanna:
Yeah!
David:
鈥r just main characters, or even if it鈥檚 just, general content that also showcases different races and different genders and everything.
Adanna:
Yeah definitely.
David:###
And we feel this has worked really, really well and we think is important.
Adanna:
Yeah.Not every family would be fortunate to live in a very diverse neighbourhood let鈥檚 just say, so from the schools that your kids attendmight be all white to the playgrounds they go to, to the community you engage in, to the churches that you go to, they might not have the opportunity for that diverse interaction.
And whilst we believe that that should be the case we know that it鈥檚 a long way ahead for some neighbourhoods, but you can start at home through what you introduce them to.
It starts from a place of love, it really does start from a place of love, rather than waiting until the age where you can tell them about all of the horror that鈥檚 happening you can start with books where the, like David said, the hero could be somebody who is not white鈥
David:
Yep.
Adanna:
鈥omebody, a person of colour, it could be a child that doesn鈥檛 look like them, and that way from a very young age they start to understand that there are people doing great things and they don鈥檛 all have to look like me.
The diversity could be a girl who is in a wheelchair, you know so there鈥檚 physical diversity as well so all elements of equality and diversity is very important to introduce very early on with the kids so鈥 I鈥檒l start with one of my first books鈥
She Persisted. This is a book by Chelsea Clinton that takes you through a lot of great women who鈥檝e made history. You can see here from the cover there is, you know, a black girl, a white girl in the wheelchair, I think this depicts diversity and very important because we are parents to boys, so it鈥檚 important for us absolutely that they see that girls are awesome as well and have a different colour.
One other book that we like is Ada Twist, Scientist.
David:
That鈥檚 really good.
Adanna:
This is also a very curious girl and basically shows you a girl who鈥檚 interested in science so, I think it鈥 this is a series so there鈥檚 about the engineering鈥
David:###
Yes
Adanna:
鈥athematics, so it breaks down a lot of gender stereotypes in terms of the occupation that girls can go after.
David:
And then there鈥檚 another book that we have used not quite a lot actually, it鈥檚 called Good Night Stories for Rebel Girls, again kind of encapturing all sorts of different barriers, let鈥檚 say, in life.
And basically just shares the story of incredible women throughout history from all around the world, so it includes a lot of also you know, black women, Asian women, you know, that have achieved as I said incredible things in science, in sports, in theatre, in academia, in all sorts of fields so again we鈥檙e reading this to the boys and once in a while you know, and they鈥檝e actually already picked up which is quite funny some of their heroes and they recognise the pictures and they know the woman, they know the name now, they know one or two things even about the woman whether that鈥檚 Rosa Parks for example鈥
Adanna:
Yeah, or Wangari Maathai.
David:
鈥angari Maathai for example, exactly, from Kenya. So this is really鈥 it鈥檚 one of those things that you don鈥檛 necessarily use every day, but you actually realise it leaves an impression and a positive one, a good one which is exactly what we鈥檙e trying to achieve.
Adanna:
Yeah, I just want to make a comment on this book so鈥 it鈥檚 a鈥 I would recommend this if you have older kids like seven, eight, but there鈥檚 some stories here that I鈥檝e had to change the words to read for the boys because they鈥檙e a bit younger, and because it actually tells you how rebellious these girls were to make a mark in the world, some of the stories are very鈥 visual, let鈥檚 just say, so I change the words for the boys.
So another book that we had used for potty training was this one, No More Nappies, and you can see on the cover here is鈥 a white baby girl and ablack baby boy so that just shows you that鈥 how important it is that what your children see makes all the difference before they go out into the real world.
A lot of the people who perpetuate the racist behaviour, you know, if you asked them 鈥榓re you racist?鈥 they would say 鈥榥o鈥. They don鈥檛 know鈥 I don鈥檛 think it鈥檚 intentional, for most people anyway, to be racist, but I think that behaviour comes from not knowing anything else other than the greatnessof people that look like you and in this case, majority is white.
And I think that that leaves an impression that 鈥極h we are greater than every other, any other race that exists in the world and I think as parents we definitely owe it to the world, we owe it to ourselves, we owe it to the kids, we owe it to the world, we owe it to humanity to incorporate this sort of education very early on in our kids鈥 lives.
David:
Yeah and especially in times like this you know鈥 more people I think are listening in now鈥
Adanna:
Yep.
David:
鈥nd asking questions right, and this is the right thing to do at this point but I think it鈥檚 also on all of us now to take action and do something.
The biggest thing every person can do, and especially white people I would say, is take action in their own life and educating yourself, asking questions and incorporating actions into your life, whether that鈥檚 with your family or with your friends and neighbours. That I think already would be a big step towards a better world, a more equal world, in the future.
Adanna:
Yep.
David:
Any outro? Any goodbye?
Adanna:
Ummm
David:
No?
Adanna and David:
(Laughs)