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Eddie Mair | 17:01 UK time, Wednesday, 14 February 2007

is reading the news right now...but tomorrow when I get a chance, the story of the Two Toms in tonight's programme - and how I got them confused. Clown.

Comments

  1. At 05:16 PM on 14 Feb 2007, Gillian wrote:

    Is this a clue for the new logo? I thought it might be Eddie sitting on the toilet, after the comment he made yesterday. Now I think it's a clown sitting on the toilet.....playing the tom-toms?

  2. At 05:30 PM on 14 Feb 2007, wrote:

    Despite my photo (superb photo) never making it into Window on your World I for one think Eddie is an excellent broadcaster. I'd like to see you being a bit more assertive with interviews. I like the "how do you sleep at night?" knife in the guts question to those who clearly deserve it. Recently there has been a tabloid mist drawn over quite serious issues where PM has decended into soundbite reporting as well as attempting to create news out of trivia. OK everyone else is doing it but its time to stand up for yourself. Be a terrier not a lapdog of populist propaganda. Lets have some of your spot on comment on the PM emails out on the air. Do it -its only a job!!!!

  3. At 05:33 PM on 14 Feb 2007, Big Sister wrote:

    The way things are going today, I'm surprised Enos Knibbs isn't reading the news.

    Oh, Silly Me! - I forgot. He lives in Derbyshire now, doesn't he?

  4. At 05:47 PM on 14 Feb 2007, wrote:

    You may be a clown Eddie.

    But you're OUR clown.

    Ah, there goes Susan Rae again. You can't beat an all-Scottish current affairs programme!

    Fifi ;o)

  5. At 05:54 PM on 14 Feb 2007, admin annie wrote:

    Good Grief! I've just had a quick look at the PM web cam and Eddie isn't wearing a rugby shirt! Is this in deference to St V's Day?

  6. At 06:03 PM on 14 Feb 2007, RJD wrote:

    Admin Annie - Where have you been?

    Well what was he wearing?

  7. At 06:14 PM on 14 Feb 2007, Bod wrote:

    Brennan on the moor, Brennan on the moor, la la la la la la on the moor - how did it go again?

  8. At 06:20 PM on 14 Feb 2007, Tony Stone wrote:

    Oh - How amusing that the small minded lilly livered merry men and women gather round to protect their clown.

    Please Mr Mair, try and take the blows like a man and not seek for sympathy.

  9. At 06:42 PM on 14 Feb 2007, wrote:

    Tony (7) Do you have a specific criticism of Eddies' interviewing technique? Are there specific points you want to take issue with? If you'd like a reasoned discussion/debate, I'm sure we would all like to take part, but we need to have something more than "pathetic". Also, I would take issue with what I can only assume is your description of the people who comment here as "small-minded, lilly-livered men and women" (I've added the punctuation, so if it is wrong, I apologise to all). I think you will find that we are some of the most open minded people you are likely to meet, with views on most topics from all over the spectrum. We are more than willing to debate our positions with great feeling, but also are open to persuasion. This surely is a quality that is to be promoted rather than denigrated.

  10. At 06:46 PM on 14 Feb 2007, wrote:

    Tony - what are you offering to do for Eddie????!!!

    blimey!

  11. At 06:59 PM on 14 Feb 2007, Tony Stone wrote:

    The question Whisht, is what Mr Mair should do for us.

    However you know my views.

    There is many a travelling circus who could make use of such talent.

    There is much talent needing an audience.

  12. At 07:57 PM on 14 Feb 2007, Gillian wrote:

    Tony Stone(11) What kind of masochistare you? Does your radio only have one station? Can you not pick and choose what you actually enjoy listening to, like the rest of us? Each to their own, surely.

  13. At 10:20 PM on 14 Feb 2007, gossipmistress wrote:

    Tony (11) I agree with FFred - if you have something specific to debate then let's hear it and I'm sure we'll all join in a sensible debate.

    Otherwise, you are just being a troll.

    And by the way, there's only one 'l' in the middle of 'Lily'. If you're going to insult us, please do it with the correct spelling or Val P will be after you!

  14. At 10:27 PM on 14 Feb 2007, admin annie wrote:

    Hello RJD, big wave, I have mostly been gnashing my teeth at a little blue bar which would get 98% of the way along and then freeze. Over and over again. However I must say it is nice to have been missed.

    I am wondering, as I wander along this thread whether Tony Stone is perhaps not Troll Stone but I could be wrong, it has been known.

    As far as I could tell Eddie was wearing a standard shirt - no tie of course - in an indeterminate pale-ish colour. I do not often bother with the web cam, as when I look at it that phrase about watching paint dry comes to mind. I look at it sometimes just to see if Eddie is doing a live interview - never caught sight of another person I have to say. I do rather wonder what the purpose of the webcam IS, and feel that perhaps resources could be diverted from them to improve the blog. I'm sure all we - what was it - small minded lily livered men and women of the frog would like that.

    (Lily livered? do people really say that?)

  15. At 11:00 PM on 14 Feb 2007, wrote:

    Tony Stone (11),

    All I'll say is that small minds tend to insults at the first sign of an arguement.

  16. At 11:16 PM on 14 Feb 2007, Valery p wrote:

    That's funny, my post has been swallowed, something about not feeding the trolls....I made it about 7.30.

  17. At 11:27 PM on 14 Feb 2007, wrote:

    hey - leave off the Tone.

    Its Valentine's Day and he's offering Eddie a wonderful erm.... well... err.... well.... servicing. probly.

    And i think that we should comlain when we think its warranted. Eddie's not sacrosant and does make blunders. It being live radio I think that's inevitable. The fact that they might be few and far between is.... well... in the ear of the beholder.

    anyway, I'm very happy as we've done Bolton at the Reebok and won scrappy (after playing champagne). If that means nothing to you, fear not, its Feb 14th and its the Romance of the FA Cup.....

    or something...

  18. At 12:08 AM on 15 Feb 2007, wrote:

    I know Annie, I just spotted that too. Hard to tell what colour it is, given lo-res webcam. But it looks about as well ironed as one of mine!

    We only do ironing in emergencies at Fifi's Place.

    Fifi

  19. At 08:14 AM on 15 Feb 2007, wrote:

    Whisht, buddy, I'm not saying "don't complain". I'm saying that if you want to discuiss whether, say, an interview was poor/mis-judged/failed to address the issue at hand/etc., then it surely behoves us to specific, clear and articulate about it. That way we get genuine discussion and debate. Just saying something is pathetic is not a debate, it's just name-calling...

    FFred

  20. At 08:21 AM on 15 Feb 2007, gossipmistress wrote:

    Fifi - Oh I agree totally - emergency ironing only!

    Whisht:

    hey - leave off the Tone
    And i think that we should comlain when we think its warranted

    I don't think that's what we were saying at all - we weren't saying don't criticise but he doesn't give any specific points of criticism to debate, just insults!

  21. At 08:55 AM on 15 Feb 2007, Susan Orty-Boyden wrote:

    Was I?

  22. At 09:43 AM on 15 Feb 2007, Belinda wrote:

    To Tony: Just a few weeks ago, a number of us here were criticising a certain interview performed by Eddie and the general content of that programme. We don't shy away from our thoughts here since we all have emotional ages above 10 (well...most of us), but your comments would be taken seriously if you detailed exactly what you found to be disappointing in the interviews, rather than simply insulting the people on here.

  23. At 10:50 AM on 15 Feb 2007, Vyle Hernia wrote:

    Interviewing isn't always easy. Dealing with a somewhat nervous member of the public is a far cry from a well-trained political bullshiner. I didn't hear the programme about which AS complained (or did I?). But I have no doubt that sometimes interviewees turn out to be different from how they were expected to be. I rather like the way even with experienced non-answerers Eddie avoids using the "Two-Sheds" approach. That was immortalised by Monty Python and adopted by some current presenters.

  24. At 12:19 PM on 15 Feb 2007, Aperitif wrote:

    Re 2 -- Ralph Withers (does he?), I hope you were being ironic -- ther's quite enough testosterone flying about on Radio 4. Eric's use of wit rather than aggression is far more inspiring. Don't change Eric! (Well, do put on something ironed once in a while...)

  25. At 12:22 PM on 15 Feb 2007, admin annie wrote:

    well I took offence at an interview on PM last week,one that Eddie didn't do in actual fact and I e-mailed the program direct about it.
    I got a very detailed response in reply from Peter Rippon which was polite and informative and for which I thanked him.
    If the frog had been working I would have posted my concerns here, but it wasn't so my comments went straight off to HQ.

  26. At 01:59 PM on 15 Feb 2007, wrote:

    guys (19, 20) - very true. my mistake.

    Tony, you now have proof that the people here aren't over-protective sycophants, but instead intelligent and articulate people who are more than capable of pondering many of the cock ups Eddie makes.

    oh, ah no... no, that's come out all wrong and isn't exactly what I meant....

    mind you - knowing what I meant could actually be alarming, as witnessed by my 10 (and 17).

    but then again, I'm small minded and smutty

  27. At 05:48 PM on 15 Feb 2007, Tony Stone wrote:

    Indeed sir, perhaps your last sentence clarified the situation.

    Or perhaps, to quote from your leader, you could sit on the Staffordshire seat and win -- as the clown said of the monkey.

  28. At 06:17 PM on 15 Feb 2007, Big Sister wrote:

    Tony Stone?

    Most improbable.

  29. At 11:30 PM on 15 Feb 2007, Aperitif wrote:

    This Stone bloke criticising Eddie is one thing -- but having a go at the lovely Whisht! Quite obviously this is just someone looking for a quarrel. It's sad. (Mostly because there are so many other places where one can easily be found).

    Whisht, dahling, but I love your (perhaps smutty but definitely not small) mind!

  30. At 12:05 AM on 16 Feb 2007, Valery p wrote:

    I think it's more than obvious who the clown is. If you think you are being enigmatic and mysterious sir, then you are the only one who does. If the programme and the contributors to this blog meet with such disfavour, why don't you merely tune out?

  31. At 08:57 AM on 16 Feb 2007, wrote:

    Tony Stone (27): I'm afraid I must agree with Valery P (30). If you want a discussion then you are welcome to join us, but simple name-calling (which is all you appear to be doing at the moment) is not really welcome. Eventually, you'll be treated as a troll* and ignored. We're a friendly, open bunch here, and manners take only a second, so please bear this in mind

    *a troll is defined as one who posts on blogs purely to annoy others and/or cause disruption. see for a fuller explanation

  32. At 01:46 PM on 16 Feb 2007, wrote:

    Aperitif - *blush*

    :¬)

    btw - that's a "smile" Tony.... c'mon, you know what the corners of your mouth are for..... one, two, three.... there yer go! a lovely smile!!

    Now that we're all smiling, lets just all sit down and have a nice cup of tea.

  33. At 03:35 PM on 17 Mar 2007, wrote:

    Are we all here yet?

    Fifi

  34. At 04:34 PM on 17 Mar 2007, Gillian wrote:

    Ready and waiting, Fifi ;o)

  35. At 05:48 PM on 17 Mar 2007, wrote:

    At last! Okay, here it is:

    1. We record the song, and Jonnie (probably with help from chris J) mixes it.

    2. The song goes on the PM Extra website. Hurrah! Job well done.

    3. The fact that we've done the song is a story. The ³ÉÈËÂÛ̳ wants to cover it, either on radio or for telly.

    4. We obtain Eric Idle's permission to borrow his tune, and go public. (or 'pubic', as I originally typed, oops!)

    Now comes the really mad part:

    5. The ³ÉÈËÂÛ̳ asks us to come and re-record the song 'properly', with less in-jokey words in some places, and they film it.

    6. Whole thing to be included in this year's Children In Need ... perhaps a limited edition single to raise £££s, who knows?

    What do you think?

    Fifi

  36. At 11:58 PM on 17 Mar 2007, Frances O wrote:

    Yes!

    I mean, it IS a story.

    Who knows? It might get coverage on that afternoon R4 programme.

    But let's do it anyway.

    For the sheer fun and pleasure of it.

    I'm a bit wary of putting my email addie out on the net and I tried the Lying Scotsman site but it won't let me be all coy. Any thoughts?

    Love and St Pat's greetings to all.

  37. At 02:14 PM on 18 Mar 2007, Gossipmistress wrote:

    Fifi - 4-6 look ambitious?!

  38. At 04:03 PM on 19 Mar 2007, witchiwoman wrote:

    Fabulous idea!! Not sure how/what I coudl contribute but on a mass chorus I'm sure I could blend in somewhere!

  39. At 07:06 PM on 19 Mar 2007, Chris the Pickle wrote:

    I'd be up for a bit of warbling if there's space left! As long as I can figure out how to get it onto the PC!!! Teen Daughter to the rescue...

    ;O)

  40. At 01:22 AM on 21 Mar 2007, wrote:

    Want to do the song thing?
    Not sure how to get in touch without making your email address public???

    Oh, I understand, believe me I do!!
    (I am the most paranoid/privacy-obsessed person you can imagine. No, REALLY.)

    Here's the foolproof answer:

    Go to Jonnie's webcam ... not linking currently awfully well, but go to last week's Beach and there are several links from my postings which will get you there.

    Just stick around online, saying nowt, and when I'm in as well, I'll start a private 'box' and we can whisper secretly.

    When Jonnie figures out how we're all (including me!) supposed to add our individual bits in, we'll make sure you know.

    Trust me: the 'how' is going to be the easy bit!

    ....Okay everyone?

    Chris, Witchi, Frances, Gillian, Gossip : keep monitoring this place for your mission instructions ( should you choose to accept them! ) and this may yet happen!

    Now I am off to bed, after 2 nights on the trot at folk nights. Happy bunny, me.....

    And see you on the Beach tomorrow. Er... today, later.

    Fifi xxx

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