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1. At 08:52 AM on 14 Jun 2007, jbagpuss wrote:

   I have to feel sorry for the author of the first quotation above since they will clearly miss one of the best news programmes on the radio.

   If I switched off every time I was annoyed by contentious comments from people featured on news shows, I would have none left to listen to.

   You report on the news and, to do so, feature views and comments from across the spectrum. Irerespective of whether individuals like Margaret Thatcher's comments or not, it was the correct decision to broadcast her speech.

   Keep it up!

2. At 08:53 AM on 14 Jun 2007, Vyle Hernia wrote:

   I was very pleased that you broadcast so much of the speech. TV programmes only gave a short extract.

   Thank you.

3. At 09:21 AM on 14 Jun 2007, Charlie wrote:

   Perhaps,

   ...one man's meat is another man's p.....

4. At 10:36 AM on 14 Jun 2007, Dr Hackenbush wrote:

   鈥淚f I switched off every time I was annoyed鈥�...

   I do sometimes switch off PM, then put it back on two minutes later. It depends who is talking and what they鈥檙e saying. I don鈥檛 usually keep it on for the secondary presenter.

5. At 10:48 AM on 14 Jun 2007, wrote:

   Margret Thatcher is offensive. She has a cult following, Andrew Marr's program this week was a great example of peoples selective memories. Much talk about the Brighton bomb, but not one mention of the hunger strikers. Her 'agrarian' sale of our public housing now looks very un-agrarian. How many popular capitalists are still city investors?

   But I still listen to PM. It is like the Huntsman studying the habits of a fox. We don't shoot the messenger. We can see beyond the mesmerized sychophants like Marr, Robinson and Muir.

   Will we have to put up with such rose-tinted memories about Bliar in 25years time?
   xx

6. At 10:51 AM on 14 Jun 2007, wrote:

   I do not see those comments as conflicting at all. The speach clearly inspired the first listener to stop listening.

   I was a very radical 16 year old at the time of the Falklands conflict and had started doing A-levels in Politics and Economics. Clearly I was right that the war was wrong (quick - employ a teenager whilst they know everything).

   With hindsight I have no idea whether it was a good or bad thing. But I vividly remember the woman who "gotcha'd" Thatch with the facts of the General Belgrano steaming away when it was sunk. But i still don't know if THAT was the right or the wrong thing.

   A quick thought. If she can still pop up on such occasions, how many more decades are we going to have of Blair popping up and rattling the cage? I may have to go to New Zealand soon to escape....

7. At 11:21 AM on 14 Jun 2007, Eddie's Sycophant wrote:

   Product of Thatcher's Britain:

   I find it offensive that you describe Eddie's politeness as sycophancy. It is not his place, nor his style, to offer his own opinion on Lady Thatcher - his preference appears to be to present a piece on radio in a professional manner.

   His views on the lady are his own, and, unlike some presenters, he keeps them to himself. A prime example of 成人论坛 neutrality in action.

   I rather think this is true of Andrew Marr as well - he is a consummate professional. Not sure who is 'Robinson' - Are you referring to the barley water?

8. At 11:55 AM on 14 Jun 2007, wrote:

   Yes, barley water.

   Sychophant is the wrong word. I only stuck in the Muir as a Huntsman uses his whip!!
   How do you describe the assumption that we are all Tories? Presenting these people from the past as our saviours? When I hear Bob Crow interviewed, I will be able to make comparisons. The day after John McDonnell withdrew his leadership bid, Our Ed's attitude was very different. Marr's program should've been two hours long, then he could have presented our modern history more fully. No, you cannot please everyone, unless you can see yourself as others see you. And that is a very rare gift.
   xx

9. At 12:13 PM on 14 Jun 2007, Eddie's Sycophant wrote:

   Well, Product, I for one am anything but a fan of Lady Thatcher, and am certainly not a Tory. But we live in a pluralist democracy, so my own views don't hold more currency than my tory neighbour's (except in the mind of Eddie's Sycophant, of course!).

   However, since I gather you disliked what came out from her period in government, I'll share with you my own feeling of extreme distaste for that time, and for the culture that it engendered. As, indeed, I dislike much about the current situation - but I'm coming over a bit Furrowed Brow now, so won't go on anymore.

   Glass of barley water, anyone?

10. At 12:28 PM on 14 Jun 2007, Product wrote:

    7 & 9

    You're a gent.

    Or a Lady.

    I am sincere, but infantile (according to Lenin).

    EVERYBODY'S HAPPY XX!!

11. At 12:49 PM on 14 Jun 2007, Vyle Hernia wrote:

    The is available online.

    I have read through it. Although it contains some questionable statements (e.g. "Fortune always favours..."), it is not 100% nonsense. I don't have the time to criticise it line by line.

    In Bristol there used to be a "STOP" sign on which someone had painted under the original word, "Thatcher". That still makes me laugh. She made some really serious blunders.

    And I'm sure we won't have to wait 25 years for Sedgefield Man to make speeches. I doubt if they'll be broadcast, though.

12. At 12:49 PM on 14 Jun 2007, wrote:

    Interesting dialogue! I'm one who was sickened, but like occasional scans of The Sun newspaper, such broadcasts are a reminder of a popular point of view.

    I too find Mr. Mair appropriately neutral, if mischievous.

    I thought Marr made the point that although Thatch changed face of politics she was bl**dy lucky to have got away with what she did.

    Whether pro or anti, I think we ARE all Thatcher's Children and I didn't read it as sychophantic...

    OK! 'fess up! Who IS Robinson?!

13. At 01:17 PM on 14 Jun 2007, wrote:

    Suzeemoon (11):

    OK! 'fess up! Who IS Robinson?!

    Aah! Tish and pshaw. Who indeed? Indeed who? I would venture, nay, proffer this suggestion...

    DING!

    Robert Robertson.

    Mayhaps and perchance this guessette is in the right arena? If so, I claim my book token and this round of applause...

14. At 03:02 PM on 14 Jun 2007, wrote:

    Suzeemoon (11):

    OK! 'fess up! Who IS Robinson?!

    Aah! Tish and pshaw. Who indeed? Indeed who? I would venture, nay, proffer this suggestion...

    DING!

    Robert Robertson.

    Mayhaps and perchance this guessette is in the right arena? If so, I claim my book token and this round of applause...

15. At 03:10 PM on 14 Jun 2007, wrote:

    Don't feed me!! I create no value sitting here!!

    'Fessing up involves scrolling up slightly and looking to your right.

    No doubts about the impact of the Baroness- still feel the pain and taste the bitterness.

    xx

16. At 04:09 PM on 14 Jun 2007, Graham Baker wrote:

    Nick Robertson will be gratified to know he is remembered so fondly.

17. At 04:24 PM on 14 Jun 2007, wrote:

    There is a weird phenomenon going on in this house today: the switching-off of radios whenever 'that bitch' comes on.

    With 2 Radio Four junkies working from home here, you may imagine we're never normally out of range of a wireless.

    Walking into a room where my SO had been, when 'she' had happened to be re-played, is a strangely silent experience.

    By the way, you DO all know about the Trafalgar Square thing.....?

    Fifi
    'never knowingly under-written'

18. At 05:50 PM on 14 Jun 2007, wrote:

    What do I know?

    Spill the beans, Fifi Frog!!!

19. At 07:39 PM on 14 Jun 2007, wrote:

    Over-Fed Troll (15):

    "'Fessing up involves scrolling up slightly and looking to your right."

    Thanks for clue!
    Hadn't noticed the bias myself.

20. At 07:40 PM on 14 Jun 2007, wrote:

    The Stainless Steel Cat 13 and 14:

    lolol So good, they posted twice! That is scarily like RR - Except I cannot imagine him lurking here. Thanks for the laugh.
    Suzee
    xx
    

21. At 08:23 AM on 15 Jun 2007, wrote:

    Urrr... OK I confess... I can't tell the difference between a "Robinson" and a "Robertson".

    More sleep please!

    Suzeemoon (20):

    How do you know I'm not really Robert Robinson in disguise?

22. At 09:50 AM on 15 Jun 2007, Vyle Hernia wrote:

    SSC (21) From your photograph.

23. At 09:38 PM on 17 Jun 2007, Dr Hackenbush wrote:

    (4) I proved myself right on Friday...