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\ltrch\fcs0 \fs24\lang2057\langfe2057\cgrid\langnp2057\langfenp2057 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 Ouch Podcast #52 \endash  June 2010
\par bbc.co.uk/ouch/podcast
\par 
\par Presented by Mat Fraser and Liz Carr
\par 
\par The Ouch Podcast is a download from the 成人论坛. For more information, and our terms of use, go to bbc.co.uk/ouch.
\par 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 [Jingle: }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 O U C H spells Ouch]
\par 
\par LIZ\tab Hello. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab Hello I'm Mat Fraser. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab And I'm Liz Carr.
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab Sorry I don't know why I'm speaking like this.
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab No sorry we were doing that in a Carry On kind of way. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab We decided we'd try to do a Carry On intro, it didn't work. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Didn't really work. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab But why break the habits of a lifetime. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Oh watch my bazoobas. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab I'm depressed. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Oh no}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 ,}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950  why? 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab Because we haven't got a disabled prime minister anymore. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid7874056 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab I know}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 ,}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 
\ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950  aren't you gutted we've got one, one who had a disabled child and has a disabled dad. 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab A lot of people have disabled dads. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Cameron's got a disabled dad. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab I think it's called Cameronclegg or Clemeron. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Clegg.
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab Cleggamon. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Really? 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab What is their new name? 
\par LIZ\tab I don't know but bye bye to Mr Why. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab Goodbye Gordon. Hello Nick and Dave. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab It's a whole new bright new world over here in the {\*\xmlopen\xmlns2{\factoidname place}}{\*\xmlopen\xmlns2{\factoidname country-region}}UK{\*\xmlclose}{\*\xmlclose}. Hello everybody. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab And it's a very busy show today Liz. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Really, then get on with it. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid7874056 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab I will because in ten minutes time our very own Rob C
roissant will be sharing with us those news stories which have gained his special attention this month. And then...
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 [Playing clip}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 : }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 Who is she, who is she, who is she where did you find her?]
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi720\li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid7874056 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 Yes Liz who is she? 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid7874056 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab It's Nikki Grahame from Big Brother 2
006 of course. She's in the studio later to talk about life with an eating disorder. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab Stay tuned for that. Also coming up... 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 [Playing music]
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid7874056 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 That's L\'e1 Rebl\'e1 Fam a {\*\xmlopen\xmlns2{\factoidname City}}London{\*\xmlclose}
 based ska punk rock band who will be playing at {\*\xmlopen\xmlns2{\factoidname place}}{\*\xmlopen\xmlns2{\factoidname City}}Glastonbury{\*\xmlclose}{\*\xmlclose} later this month and they'll be talking excitedly about that later on in the show. 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Wow it certain is a busy one isn't it eh? 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab Ooh I can hardly contain myself. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid7874056 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab But there's always time for Vegetable, Vegetable or Vegetable}{
\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056  -}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950  the gruesome game is coming up later on. 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid7874056 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab 
As ever we're always on the web at bbc.co.uk/ouch where you can read lots of interesting features, check out the blog, listen to audio extras including a recent travel panel discussion featuring our very own Liz Carr and much more, that is, on
ce again on bbc.co.uk/ouch.}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950  
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Lovely. Are you well?}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950  
\par MAT\tab I am well, I've been getting over a head cold, they call it a summer cold. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Really? 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab Yeah because there was like an hour of sunshine. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab That was very exciting, I was quite... it was good, I was hot for once because I }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi720\li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid7874056 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 feel the cold. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab Yes I know. But no so... 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab I've had a good morning. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab Have you? 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Yeah. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab You look full of beans. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab No because do you know what I bumped into Peter White earlier. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab No literally}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056  -}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950  I was there. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid7874056 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Yeah I know}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 ,}{\rtlch\fcs1 
\af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950  it's great. Extra points because I was backing out of a lift at 成人论坛 and I bumped into well I almost ran over Peter White which made me deliriously happy. 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid7874056 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab One }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
of two things that often happen}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950  when I watch you in the 成人论坛. And the other thing happened as well didn't it? 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid7874056 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab 
Oh man. So there we are, we have a meeting before we record this okay? So we were in our meeting, we came out and there was a glass room where everyone could watch us passing by. And we passed by and what happened Mat?}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 
\insrsid7874056 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950  
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab You got 'the look'. [singing] You Got The Look! 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Yeah not the look you want but that look that's like "Hm". 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid7874056 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab 
See if we can make an audio version of 'the look'. So it's one of those frowning kind smiles of solidarity and slightly perplexed at the same time. "Hm."
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Isn't that nice that they're allowed in the 成人论坛. That's the kind of... 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab We support it fully but on god. Anyway... 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid7874056 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab 
Yes. So we have had a bit of good weather, you get excited about striping off the summer? 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid7874056 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab 
Absolutely can't wait to burn my pointy little shoulders and nose. My pointy shoulders I can't reach them and you know what I'm like terribly autocratic even with sun cream and so I get burnt shoulders every year \endash  to a crisp.
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid7874056 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Are you very vain}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 ? D}{
\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 o you go for the tanning stuff}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 ? A}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 re you going to, you know... 
\par MAT\tab No I just, to be honest, I'm more of a Victorian in that respect. I like my vitamin A but I'm so worried about getting skin cancer to be honest that I plaster myself in factor 50 whenever I can except for the pointy shoulders. What about you? 

\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Oh I cover up... 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab How does your skin fair in the sun? 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid7874056 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab 
Oh it doesn't like... it frizzles it burns like streaky bacon. You can hear it, you can smell it.}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950  
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab [sizzling noise]
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab That's me. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab Ah Liz. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid7874056 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab 
That's me when it's 18 degrees outside pretty much, when it's in the 60s that's what I'm like. 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab You're looking very well, skin's looking good. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Thank you. Well actually since we're talking about skin and... 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab It's smooth it's looking. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Would you like to feel my face?
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab Yeah, sure. I'll pretend I'm blind for a second. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Yes just do that. [singing] Hello is it me you're... it's quite smooth isn't it? 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab Yes it is smooth as I'd expect from a lady. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Well speaking of smooth skin, a seamless link there Matthew.
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab Beautiful. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid7874056 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950\charrsid3803819 LIZ\tab We do}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 
\insrsid3803819\charrsid3803819  \endash }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950\charrsid3803819  that}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid3803819\charrsid3803819 \rquote s}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950\charrsid3803819  the very}{
\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid3803819\charrsid3803819 , very attractive}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950\charrsid3803819  looking today Geoff Adam}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 -Spinks. Hello Geoff. 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 GEOFF\tab Good morning and good afternoon whatever time you're listening. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Hello. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab Oh he's good. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Well you normally report on disability for 成人论坛. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 GEOFF\tab Yes I do. 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid7874056 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab 
But we've got you here today because you're looking very smooth of face. You have had cosmetic treatment on your face. 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab What, what sort? 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 GEOFF\tab I decided to go and have my face lasered because... 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid7874056 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab Eh? 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-1440\li1440\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin1440\itap0\pararsid7874056 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 GEOFF\tab 
Yes because, partly because I'm a bit of a vain person; but partly because I think also I reckon I spend 25 minutes a day shaving. And, you know, have you bought a packet of razor blades recently}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 ? -}{
\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950  they're about \'a320 a throw. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab Prohibitively expensive it's agreed. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 GEOFF\tab Apparently they're one of the most shoplifted items from supermarkets. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid7874056 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab 
Can I maybe explain that, Geoff, is a friend of Matthew, if you know what I'm saying. 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab Not like a friend of Dorothy but like a friend... 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Well similar. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid7874056 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab 
Basically listeners, Geoff's arms are, unbelievable as it might be for you to comprehend, even shorter than mine and I }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 guess that impacts on your shaving}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950  time. }
{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950  
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-1440\li1440\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin1440\itap0\pararsid7874056 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 GEOFF\tab It's 
a drag for me to shave because I'm a perfectionist and if there's that little tiny bit of stubble left I will do the whole thing all over again, and again and again and again, until I get it exactly perfect as I want it. So the idea that for the next 15 y
e
ars I don't have to do any of that is really attractive. But I think the disability comes into it as well, yes it's convenience but it's an access issue. It took about 45 minutes and it's the first of six treatments. And I have to tell you after the first
 one I did actually doubt my sanity for a short while because it hurt like crazy. 
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\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid7874056 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab 
Well let's see if it was worth it because our very own Liz Carr, ladies and gentlemen, listeners is... 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Let me have a feel. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab Oh she's feeling it. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Oh, oh I can feel the improvement. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab Was it smooth, Liz? 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Yeah, no it is. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab She was feeling Geoff's chin, listeners, just then. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid7874056 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab 
Mat, what would you have done? Would you have anything done for access, you know? 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab Well given that apparently y
our hair DNA inheritance skips a generation and my grandfather had such bad nasal hair he ended up giving up and just started his moustache inside his nose. So I'd probably have the nasal hair done. What about you, Liz, would you have anything done?

\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab You know what I remember we had Claire Jennings on, a visually impaired woman, and she had lip liner tattooed on. 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab That's right. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab So there's the deal about having makeup and all that. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab This is another step though having your chin lasered off... 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab It's true. I've had my legs done for the very same reason that Geoff has. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab What lasered? 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Yes. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 GEOFF\tab Did it hurt as much as it did on my mouth? 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid7874056 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab 
Yes it's terribly painful but because I couldn't... they were being bled to death because somebody else had to shave them so I saved up and }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 it was my absolute (imaudible}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 
\insrsid9265950 )
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid7874056 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab 
It must have cost a fortune because I'm guessing this isn't on the National Health Service. 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-1440\li1440\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin1440\itap0\pararsid7874056 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 GEOFF\tab It's not cheap but I calculated that within 18 months I've got my
 money back just on razor blades alone never mind shaving gel.}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950  
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid7874056 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab 
Good luck with the remaining five treatments of what sounds like hell but it's worth it. 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 The very smooth Geoff Adam-Spinks}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 , thank you. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7874056 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab Gliding out the studio. Hey let's do some emails. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid11955565 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Okay. We've had a few, a few this month. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid11955565 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab Good. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid11955565 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid11955565 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab 
Peter Gambey he's talking about you conduct the Southampton Choral Society, a choir of around}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9765637  100 people which sings,}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 
 works blah, blah, blah all sorts. Now you've experienced this d
isability but you're saying that despite long experiences in music you've only ever seen one blind person and two wheelchair users in choirs. Well people should get involved in choirs you're absolutely right, there was Open Access Choir who were in Last C
hoir Standing, I don't know if you remember that was a 成人论坛 reality show where they picked the best choir}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid11955565  - that was fab -}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 
 and also there's been a community choir at Da Da Fest in {\*\xmlopen\xmlns2{\factoidname place}}Liverpool{\*\xmlclose}. So }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid11955565 as }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 
Peter said there's lots of choir stuff going on, so do get out there and get involved.}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid11955565 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950  
\par MAT\tab And there was that 成人论坛 drama called The Choir which had little Kiruna Stamell in it. 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid11955565 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab That's right. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid11955565 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid11955565 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab Nice to know that people from Mumbai and {\*\xmlopen\xmlns2{\factoidname 
place}}{\*\xmlopen\xmlns2{\factoidname country-region}}India{\*\xmlclose}{\*\xmlclose} listen to us. "Hi, we in {\*\xmlopen\xmlns2{\factoidname place}}{\*\xmlopen\xmlns2{\factoidname country-region}}India{\*\xmlclose}{\*\xmlclose}
 do not have such opportunities" says }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \highlight7\insrsid9265950\charrsid11955565 ((Jamal Mathranie \endash  sp?))}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 
 and I hope Jamal I've pronounced your name right "of social participation as being conducted by the 成人论坛. We'd like to be part of your show, please advise." Well my advice to you is keep listening, send in more stuff. If you ever
 come over here then come in and say hello. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid11955565 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab I love it that they end their email "Aged 30, height 4" I think it's foot "have short limbs."}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid11955565 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950  
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab It's good to know, thanks very much. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid6889148 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab I think everybody should sign off their email... 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid6889148 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab With their impairment. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid6889148 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab ... with their impairments and statistics. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid6889148 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab Let's do that for the rest of the programme. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid6889148 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Absolutely. Next we have... 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid6889148 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid6889148 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab Thanks very much Claire from {\*\xmlopen\xmlns2{\factoidname place}}
{\*\xmlopen\xmlns2{\factoidname City}}Seattle{\*\xmlclose}{\*\xmlclose}. Thanks very much for your lovely comments and I'm glad you enjoy the show. 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid6889148 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid6889148 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab We have Oleana from {\*\xmlopen\xmlns2{\factoidname place}}
{\*\xmlopen\xmlns2{\factoidname country-region}}Poland{\*\xmlclose}{\*\xmlclose} "Hello Mat and Liz. Surfing on the internet looking for podcasts for impr}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid6889148 oving my English - I found yours.\'94
\par 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab Uh-ho. 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid6889148 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid6889148 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab 
I think that's fascinating because what kind of an approach to English language are they going to }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid6889148 get. Yeah }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid6889148\charrsid3803819 crips, }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 
\ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid3803819\charrsid3803819 spaz}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950\charrsid3803819 , flid, there you go.}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950  
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid6889148 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab And what search engine was she using?
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid6889148 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid6889148 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Oh my goodness. Anyway she admires what we do. 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid6889148 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab That's nice. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid6889148 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Regards from {\*\xmlopen\xmlns2{\factoidname place}}{\*\xmlopen\xmlns2{\factoidname country-region}}Poland{\*\xmlclose}{\*\xmlclose}. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid6889148 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid6889148 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab And Sherry from {\*\xmlopen\xmlns2{\factoidname State}}Minnesota
{\*\xmlclose} in the {\*\xmlopen\xmlns2{\factoidname place}}{\*\xmlopen\xmlns2{\factoidname country-region}}US{\*\xmlclose}{\*\xmlclose} stumbled on our 
podcast. "Yes I have feet, can feel them and walk." Well that's very nice. A little bit mocking the afflicted though to call into a disability site and then list all of the things you can do.  
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid6889148 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Here's what you would have won kind of thing. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid6889148 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab But thank you for your superiority complex. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid6889148 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid6889148 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab 
One from Shalyn Northampton, hello Sha, you were born in August '95 and you found out you have dyspraxia. So you found it difficult at school and you have GCSEs coming up next year, poor you, but you're going to
 be fine I'm sure. You say that you're wondering if we had any pointers on how to concentrate on schoolwork. Thank you for getting in touch. Mat? 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid6889148 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab Have you got any? Rob's here with us. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid6889148 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid6889148 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 ROB\tab Well I did my GCSEs on the year you were born, so I don't kn
ow you probably do... 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid6889148 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab That's a strange subject. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid6889148 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid6889148 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 ROB\tab 
... it on iPads now. But essentially I found because my eyes prevented me from studying books for a very, very long period of time I was a little bit geeky, and I started very, very early and only
 did about 40 minutes a day, but I started incredibly early and just did it that way. 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid6889148 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Okay so you were planned and you prepared. I'd say, Sha, one thing... 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid6889148 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid6889148 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 ROB\tab Still failed should I say. 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid6889148 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid6889148 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab ... know what you're entitled to, Sha, and that might i
nclude extra time as well just for the exam and everything like that. 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid6889148 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid6889148 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 ROB\tab 
That's right you are entitled to extra time and I did get half an hour extra time for all my GCSEs and A-levels so make sure you get that in the bag. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid6889148 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab It can be really helpful can't it but good luck. And I'd say turn the TV off. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid6889148 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid6889148 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 ROB\tab 
Also make sure you're in the right exam hall because I remember for my very first}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid6889148 \'85}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950  
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid6889148 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab Duh!
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid6889148 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid4926417 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 ROB\tab ... my very first A-level exam }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 
\insrsid4926417 yeah exactly. The lecturer}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950  came out to the front, there was about 400 terrified people in {\*\xmlopen\xmlns2{\factoidname place}}West Cheshire{\*\xmlclose}
 college and said, "Welcome to the A-level Sociology exam. Now before we get started I don't suppose there's anybody here who's turned up thinking this is the Economics exam that took place yesterday." And everybody was
 just looking round just going, "Huh ridiculous." And then you just heard this little "Duh" from one guy as he scraped back his chair and did a walk of shame all the way through the exam hall. So yeah turn up to the right place, revise early and get your 
extra half hour.
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4926417 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 [Jingle: You're listening to the Ouch talk show.] 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4926417 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid5186814 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab 
Well in less than ten minutes we're going to be putting on our scary Big Brother voices and inviting Nikki Grahame to come to the dining room, but first you've probably notice Rob Crossan has arrived to do our news, our monthly news. Hello Rob. 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid5186814 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 ROB\tab Hello. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid5186814 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab Wearing a lovely hat. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid5186814 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 ROB\tab Yeah. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid5186814 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab Which we can't decide now what hat is it? 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid5186814 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 ROB\tab It's a half trilby}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid5186814 ,}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950  half panama. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid5186814 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Can I ask has it been grafted on for cosme}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid5186814 tic purpose reasons?}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950  
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid5186814 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid5186814 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 ROB\tab 
Well I have been wearing it a lot recently. I had someone ask me the other day say, "Rob, obviously you're a travel writer do you try and blend in with the locals?" I was like, "Look at me I'm wearing a trilby, pasty white skin, ill-fi
tting shorts like yeah where do you think I'm from?"
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid5186814 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Surely you would get a hat like that on the NHS because you can't burn... 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid5186814 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 ROB\tab Should do shouldn't I?
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid5186814 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab ... you've got such fair skin. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid5186814 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 ROB\tab I should get sun block on the NHS as well. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid5186814 
\par 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab So some on, Rob, what's your first story? We've got here... 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid5186814 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 ROB\tab Yeah it's Wenlock & Mandeville who are the mascots for the 2012 {\*\xmlopen\xmlns2{\factoidname City}}{\*\xmlopen\xmlns2{\factoidname place}}London{\*\xmlclose}{\*\xmlclose} }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 
\ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid5186814 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi720\li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid5186814 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 Paralympics, God help us.  
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid5186814 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab Have you seen them? 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid5186814 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 ROB\tab Yes. I don't actually have a photo to show you. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid5186814 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab I've seen them. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid5186814 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 ROB\tab Have you seen them yet? 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid5186814 
\par MAT\tab Yeah it was i}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 n the paper. Have you seen it Liz?
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid5186814 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Oh yeah. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid5186814 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 ROB\tab We will put them on the website. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid5186814 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab Tell the listeners. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid5186814 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid5186814 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 ROB\tab 
Well what I prefer most of all is that they showed it to a load of primary schools kids to get their reaction and one of them said, "They remind you of aliens}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid5186814 ,}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 
 which is really weird and cool." So how can I describe this to you then? It's basically a kind of metallic finish, a single large eye made out of a camera lens, a {\*\xmlopen\xmlns2{\factoidname place}}{\*\xmlopen\xmlns2{\factoidname City}}London
{\*\xmlclose}{\*\xmlclose} taxi 
light on their heads and the Olympic rings which are represented as friendship bracelets on their wrists. If that doesn't sound bad enough maybe we got off light because I've got to tell you about some of the ideas that got rejected, which include an anth
ropomorphic pigeon, an animated teapot and a big bed with arms and legs. 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid5186814 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid5186814 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab That sounds much better. I love}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 
\insrsid5186814  that}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950  Jonathan Ross actually described the characters as "Looking like rollerball deodorants."}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid5186814 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950  
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab That's a good point they do look like that. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid5186814 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid5186814 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Don't they}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid5186814 !}{\rtlch\fcs1 
\af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950  I think, so if you're trying to get a picture that is what look like. It's quite upsetting isn't it? 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid5186814 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 ROB\tab You know why they're named Wenlock and Mandeville?
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid5186814 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab Is it anything to do with Stoke Mandeville, the children}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid5186814 \rquote }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 s hospital? 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid5186814 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid5186814 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 ROB\tab We
ll almost. Stoke Mandeville was apparently where the Paralympics were founded. 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid5186814 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ AND MAT\tab Oh!
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid5186814 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid5186814 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 ROB\tab 
And Much Wenlock in Shropshire was where the idea... where they had their own kind of Olympic games in the 19th Century for things like haggis toss--... n
o it's Shropshire isn't it with pie tossing or whatever and that gave the inspiration to revive the Olympics properly. 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid5905895 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid5905895 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab 
So some good stuff because they were both revealed at the same time it's not like as usual four months later we see what the Paralympics mascot is, so I guess that's good. 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid5905895 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab But equality. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid5905895 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Yeah a bit there but is Mandeville disabled, Rob? 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid5905895 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 ROB\tab I've absolutely no idea. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid5905895 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab He's only got one eye. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid5905895 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid5905895 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab They jump about, in the introduction video, they jump about and then Mand
eville gets in a wheelchair. So it sounds like they could be defrauding the state. 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid5905895 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab Well you can decide for yourself listeners by going... 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid5905895 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Just saying! 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid5905895 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid5905895 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab 
You can decide for yourself by going to the 2012 website where apparently aforementioned video is viewable by all. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid5905895 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Fantastic. What is the next story? 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid5905895 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid5905895 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 ROB\tab 
Can't wait. Well we're talking about football now. Obviously, with the World Cup... 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid5905895 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab [Singing] No that's I thought it was the right noise to make. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid5905895 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab You don't even like football. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid5905895 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab I hate it. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid5905895 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 ROB\tab You hate football don't you, both of you hate football. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid5905895 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab I don't hate football, I like watching a skilled game of 24 chaps and a ball. I just don't like all the talking. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid5905895 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 ROB\tab 24? What game are you watching? 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid5905895 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab Isn't that two teams? 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid5905895 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 ROB\tab No, it's 22 eleven a side. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid5905895 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab I thought it was seven. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid5905895 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 ROB\tab We're going to... 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid5905895 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab That's told me. 
\par ROB\tab ... have go right back to basics with you aren't we? 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid5905895 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab So anyway, so we go on. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid5905895 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 ROB\tab Is that because you never played in school?
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid5905895 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid5905895 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab 
I played left wing once and when I couldn't throw the ball in properly I got sacked from the team. 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid5905895 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Nobody picked you did they? 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid5905895 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab No}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid5905895 ,}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950  me and the fat kid. Anyway go on. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid5905895 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid5905895 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 ROB\tab Well this is {\*\xmlopen\xmlns2{\factoidname place}}
{\*\xmlopen\xmlns2{\factoidname PlaceName}}Manchester{\*\xmlclose} {\*\xmlopen\xmlns2{\factoidname PlaceType}}City{\*\xmlclose}{\*\xmlclose} fan, mum of three called Dina Nix
on who suffers from a brain tumour. I mean I don't quite understand 'suffers from a brain tumour' }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid5905895 - }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 
isn't a brain tumour something that you have and then recover from, you're not continually having a brain tumour all the time are you? 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid5905895 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab I don't know. I suppose while you have it you're suffering with it. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid5905895 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid5905895 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab 
Can I just say it's a little pedantic of you, Rob, move on with the story, come on. 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid5905895 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab He's getting a bit OCD. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid5905895 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Do you know what I mean, Jesus. Suffers from... 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid5905895 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid5905895 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 ROB\tab And epilepsy. Has been 
told that she can no longer have a ticket in the disabled section of {\*\xmlopen\xmlns2{\factoidname PlaceName}}{\*\xmlopen\xmlns2{\factoidname place}}Manchester{\*\xmlclose} {\*\xmlopen\xmlns2{\factoidname PlaceType}}City{\*\xmlclose}{\*\xmlclose}
's stadium because she's not disabled enough. Now she claims basically the club's response is because she does not receive higher rate mobility allowance she'll have to sit
 elsewhere and pay an extra hundred and seventy quid. Now this is one of the good things about disabled and being into football is that you usually can get quite a whacking discount on getting into games. But no longer apparently. And Dina says, "It's bec
a
use they can't see my disability. If I had a wooden leg I'd get it." And the club have... which is slightly an arcane response but what about if you had rickets or the plague? But apparently Dina's been told she can stay in the disabled section now after 
all but she's still got to pay the extra hundred and seventy quid so therefore paying the price of a non disabled fan for a season ticket. I think it's a bit harsh I know football clubs are in debt these days but just maybe... 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid5905895 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab Come on. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid5905895 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid5905895 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 ROB\tab ... pay {\*\bkmkstart OLE_LINK1}{\*\bkmkstart OLE_LINK2}Robinho
{\*\bkmkend OLE_LINK1}{\*\bkmkend OLE_LINK2} a couple of... twenty quid less a week and you've basically covered it. 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid5905895 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid10626818 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab 
And you might people might want to be in the disabled area for different reasons. I mean I think... 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid10626818 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 ROB\tab What to nick stuff? 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid10626818 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Well ((0:17:48.6?)) stories like she wanted to be near the First Aid staff. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid2105107 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 ROB\tab Yeah that's right yeah because she was worried if she had a fit or something. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid2105107 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid2105107 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab 
Yeah absolutely, there's other reasons other than you need wheelchair access isn't there. 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid2105107 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid2105107 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab Yeah what you should have done is
 go to the Tower of London darling because I was there the other day and instead of paying seventeen quid a person, guess how much three of us got in because I was disabled? 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid2105107 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 ROB\tab Probably like a fiver. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid2105107 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Three pounds? 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid2105107 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab Total bill \endash  two quid. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid2105107 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid2105107 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 ROB\tab 
Nice, very nice. Well I've got the double whammy you see of having a press card and a disability card so there's very little I have to pay to get into but two quid for three at the {\*\xmlopen\xmlns2{\factoidname place}}{\*\xmlopen\xmlns2{\factoidname 
PlaceType}}Tower{\*\xmlclose} of {\*\xmlopen\xmlns2{\factoidname PlaceName}}London{\*\xmlclose}{\*\xmlclose}. 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid2105107 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab I know. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid2105107 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 ROB\tab Because that is absurdly expensive isn't it most of the time? 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid2105107 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab So what are headlines you'd have liked to have seen then this month? 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid2105107 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid2105107 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 ROB \tab 
I'd have liked to have seen 'Gordon Brown accepting new job as monocle tester for Specsavers.' And 'Cleggaron appoints Peter White as Minister for Jolly Nice Disabled People.'
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\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab And I have a news story this month. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid2105107 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 ROB\tab Well go on. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid2105107 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid2105107 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab 
It was in Metro, the title is 'Not So Super Heroes.' Would you have believed a man could fly if Superman had been dubbed Specialman? Yes. 
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\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 ROB\tab Specialman!
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid2105107 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Yes Spiderman wouldn't have been able to do everything a spider can he'd }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid2105107 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid2105107 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 
have been called Spaderman. And Robocop would have worried no villains if he'd been billed as Robertcop. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid2105107 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab What's going on? 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid2105107 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab These are the super heroes that Chinese crooks have made as counterfeit. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid2105107 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab Okay. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid2105107 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab So basically as a mistake they got the wrong names.
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid2105107 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 ROB\tab So when you're wearing your Addihash t-shirts you can go off and... 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid2105107 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab I have been in eBay look I would love a Specialman. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid2105107 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab [singing] Specialman. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid2105107 
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So it's the translation it's absolutely fantastic that's what they've messed up on. So yes there you go I wante}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid2231881 d to bring that to (inaudible}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 ) 
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\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 ROB\tab I've been Robertcop and it's been a pleasure. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid3812252 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab And you are a special man. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid3812252 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Aren't we all? Well no... 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid3812252 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab Let's give him the look. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid3812252 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 ROB\tab Ah. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid3812252 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT \tab Thanks Rob. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid3812252 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 ROB\tab See you next time. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid3812252 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab Bye. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid3812252 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 [Jingle: Mat Fraser, Liz Carr bbc.co.uk/ouch]
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid3812252 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 Still to come... 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid3812252 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 [Playing music]
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid3812252 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid3812252 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 Two members of unsigned act L\'e1 Rebl\'e1 Fam join us in the studio later t
o gloat about their upcoming {\*\xmlopen\xmlns2{\factoidname place}}{\*\xmlopen\xmlns2{\factoidname City}}Glastonbury{\*\xmlclose}{\*\xmlclose}
 gig. But right here beside me right now is Nikki Grahame of Big Brother fame. Welcome to our den of disability Nikki. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid3812252 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 NIKKI\tab }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid3812252 \tab }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 
\insrsid9265950 Thank you. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid3812252 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid3812252 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Nikki Grahame provoked strong reactions inside and outside the house wh
en she first burst onto our screens as a contestant on Big Brother 2006. Her strops were legendary. And some of her favourite phrases are still being used in conversation today. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid3812252 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab But it was only post eviction and after Nikki's fame continued to grow that she revealed her link to the world of disability. 
\par LIZ\tab Nikki's been living with an eating disorder since the age of eight and her book Dying to be Thin has just been released in paperback and she's here to tell us about it. So an eating disorder since the age of eight. 
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\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-1440\li1440\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin1440\itap0\pararsid3812252 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 NIKKI\tab 
I know we're going back like 20 years now back then it wasn't very common at all and people really didn't know how to deal with it. 
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\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab Especially not in kids right? 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid3812252 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 NIKKI\tab }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid3812252 \tab }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 No. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid3812252 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid3812252 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab I mean maybe with some sort of famous adult
 type people but not with children. 
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\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-1440\li1440\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin1440\itap0\pararsid3812252 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 NIKKI}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid3812252 \tab }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 
\ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 Yeah I mean at the time the only people that I'd heard of was famous gymnast Olga Korbut and Karen Carpenter. 
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\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab That's right. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid3812252 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid3812252 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab 
And what, you know, was there anything particular going on in your world at that time or did it just happen? Do you have any sense of why? 
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\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-1440\li1440\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin1440\itap0\pararsid3812252 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 NIKKI}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid3812252 \tab }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 
\ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 Well at the time my Mum and Dad were battling with a divorce and I was in the gymnastic squad, and there was an awful lot of pressure there. And I just needed something I could control.
 And I found that I could control how much I ate and how much I weighed. And yeah I was good at it so I made it my ambition to starve myself to death just like Karen Carpenter did.  
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\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid3812252 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab When you were like not eating any of your school lunch didn't the te
achers notice or the cater--... I mean didn't anyone notice and sort of try and stop it?
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\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-1440\li1440\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin1440\itap0\pararsid3812252 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 NIKKI}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid3812252 \tab }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 
\ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 Well people did notice at school and for a long time I used to just sit in the medical room because obviously when you're not eating your brain gets starved of 
nutrients and it's not able to function. So I was going into the classes and not able... not being able to learn or do what the other children were doing. So I would just sit in the medical room and obviously my weight got lower and lower and eventually I
 was taken out of school. 
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\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid3812252 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab And so once people recognise}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 
\insrsid3812252 d}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950  it as anorexia and once you'd got the diagnosis, what happened? You know I was reading you've been in and out of hospitals for years and years with it. 
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\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 NIKKI}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid3812252 \tab }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 \tab Well yeah. All in all I've spent 11 years in hospital.
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid3812252 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab Wow!
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid3812252 
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\ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 So I got like lots of different care in lots of different places like one particular unit would offer a different strategy to another unit. And as the years went on the placements I was in the care was slightly better.
 But when I first was hospitalised the methods they use were just totally barbaric. 
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\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid3812252 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab 
So what were they, if you don't mind us asking, what were the treatments, what kind of things? 
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\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-1440\li1440\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin1440\itap0\pararsid3812252 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 NIKKI}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid3812252 \tab }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 
\ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 Well one particular placement just put me on the bed in a cubicle for three months. I had no mental stimulation, I wasn't allowed books, I wasn't allowed cuddly toys \endash 
 I was nine years old. I had a 20 minute visit from my Mum. 
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\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid3812252 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab 
Which must have been, you know, your family was going through enough anyway, you we}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid2231881 re (inaudible}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 )... 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid3812252 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab It sounds barbaric. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid3812252 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab ... incredible. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid3812252 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-1440\li1440\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin1440\itap0\pararsid3812252 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 NIKKI}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid3812252 \tab }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 
\ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 And for a child that could be really damaging. And I'd have to use a bedpan and a bed bath and it was just horrendous. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid3812252 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid3812252 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Have things really progressed now, have they changed a lot i
n terms of the treatments?
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\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-1440\li1440\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin1440\itap0\pararsid3812252 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 NIKKI\tab 
Yeah. The last eating disorders unit I was in the care was better, they knew how to deal with people with eating disorders and we had proper psychiatric help. And we had weight gain programmes which were designed for people with eating disorders. 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid3812252 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-1440\li1440\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin1440\itap0\pararsid3812252 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab 
You stopped treatment abruptly and began to recover in 2001. What was the actual turning point when it started to change? What was that? 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid3812252 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-1440\li1440\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin1440\itap0\pararsid3812252 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 NIKKI\tab 
I actually ran away from one of the clinics I was in when I was 15. And it's the first time that I experienced the outside world because I'd been so institutionalised for 11 years that I didn't \endash 
 was it 11 years, it might have been a bit less than that \endash  but I hadn't seen the outside world, I hadn't lived in it and I got picked up by 
the police and put in a children's home. And I stayed there for five days and yeah it was just experiencing living with people outside of hospital, although it was for a short time, it was enough for me to think my God what am I doing? There could be a pl
a
ce for me outside of hospital. I want to get better and go home and experience living. So at that point obviously I got picked up by Social Services and taken back and I thought you know what I'm going to turn my back on this illness and fight to get out 
of hospital and go home. And I did. 
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\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid3812252 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab 
Ironic then that you should end up in Big Brother really. Bizarre institution being told what to do. 
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\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 NIKKI}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid3812252 \tab }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 
\insrsid9265950 \tab Perfect for me! 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid3812252 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab It must have been a breeze for you in comparison? 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid3812252 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 NIKKI\tab }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9461598 \tab }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 It was}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9461598 , I walked the audition process}{\rtlch\fcs1 
\af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid3812252 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid9461598 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab 
Why did you, what made you go, "You know what let's go for it, I want to do this?" What?
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9461598 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-1440\li1440\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin1440\itap0\pararsid9461598 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 NIKKI\tab 
Because I had nothing to lose. I came out of hospital I had no qualifications, I've missed all my schooling. I got put in a hostel when I fir
st came out of hospital because I couldn't live at home and, you know, I lived with people that had just... they'd leave razor blades, used razor blades and sanitary towels in the communal showers. And I lived in this place for a year and a half and it wa
s
 so horrendous and I just thought there must be something better for me out there. I've got to try. I went to college and I did a course in beauty therapy and got an NVQ in that. And I just had to start life from scratch at the age of 16. I had no friends
, I had nothing going for me. So going on Big Brother was like... I loved the show I'd watched every single series. 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9461598 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab So you were a fan. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9461598 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 NIKKI}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9461598 \tab }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 \tab I was a huge fan.
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9461598 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab So you saw the advert and you thought absolutely this is for me?
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9461598 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-1440\li1440\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin1440\itap0\pararsid9461598 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 NIKKI}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9461598 \tab }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 
\ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 But there's 
something interesting, I applied the year Jade Goody went in and I got quite far, those were the days where you had to send in a show reel about yourself. And it was almost like an audition process where you send in a video. So I sent this in, I got calle
d
 in, I actually got quite far, I got through a few stages and then I got to do the producer's talk and I told them about my past and I actually broke down while I was talking about it and got quite upset. And I didn't get called back after that. So I left
 it a few years and I went back and auditioned when I was 22 and yeah and I sailed through it. I thought I'm not going to tell them about my anorexia because I knew I wouldn't get in. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9461598 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid9461598 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab That's fascinating because I had no idea until recently that you ha
d had anorexia, that you have it, and was really shocked because it doesn't come across in Big Brother at all, so I wanted to ask you why did you make the decision not to tell them. Wow because when you did you weren't selected by the sounds of it. 

\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7632467 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid7632467 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab S
ounds familiar disabled listeners doesn't it? Applying for a job don't mention the disability. And we'll be hearing more from Nikki Grahame later on in the programme.}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7632467 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950  
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 [Jingle: 成人论坛.co.uk/ouch]
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7632467 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 [Jingle: Now it's time for Vegetable, Vegetable, or Vegetable]
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7632467 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid7632467 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab 
It's here again to prove that contrary to popular belief a five minute phone chat and 90 seconds of cruel questioning is rarely enough time in which to guess someone's impairment.}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7632467 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950  
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab And on the line this month we have Nick from {\*\xmlopen\xmlns2{\factoidname place}}
Surrey{\*\xmlclose}. Hello Nick. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7632467 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 NICK\tab Hi, how are you? 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7632467 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab I'm very well thank you despite my flippers. How about you?
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7632467 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 NICK\tab I'm very well thank you.
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7632467 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab And you're flippers are fine? 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7632467 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 NICK\tab Hm.
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7632467 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Yes okay. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7632467 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab He's non committal. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7632467 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Where are you calling from?
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7632467 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 NICK\tab I'm calling from Epsom in {\*\xmlopen\xmlns2{\factoidname place}}Surrey{\*\xmlclose}. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7632467 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab Oh Epsom in {\*\xmlopen\xmlns2{\factoidname place}}Surrey{\*\xmlclose}. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7632467 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Horse racing that's all I know. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7632467 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab Horse racing and fox hunting. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7632467 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 NICK\tab Horse racing. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7632467 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab And do you live next to the Beckhams?
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7632467 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 NICK\tab No. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7632467 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab Okay. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7632467 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 NICK\tab I wish that means I'd have a huge house. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7632467 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab It might do or it might mean that you're a squatter. What do you do Nick? 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7632467 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 NICK\tab I am a music student. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7632467 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Do you play various instruments? 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7632467 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 NICK\tab I play one instrument. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7632467 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab And that is? 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7632467 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 NICK\tab The piano. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7632467 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab You're being coy there aren't you "I play one".
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7632467 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 NICK \tab I play one instrument. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7632467 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab But draw it out of me. Create a sense of mystery. It's a piano. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7632467 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab He's got working hands then, Liz.
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7632467 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab What's your favourite octave?
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7632467 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 NICK\tab What's my favour octave? The lower register.
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7632467 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Excellent, mine too. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7632467 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab What's your spread? 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7632467 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 NICK\tab A ten. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7632467 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab Oh that's the distance between the little finger and the thumb isn't it?
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7632467 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 NICK\tab Yeah. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7632467 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab That you can spread it out. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7632467 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 NICK\tab There are ten notes between. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7632467 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab Ten note spread that's... 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7632467 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Big hands. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7632467 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab ... bigger than mine. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7632467 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Is that your impairment?
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7632467 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab Moving swiftly on. Have you seen Mandeville the Paralympic mascot Nick? 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7632467 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 NICK\tab No. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7632467 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Good lucky you. Is that because you can't see it because you're blind?
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7632467 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 NICK\tab No I can see.
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7632467 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Oh sorry I'm not allowed to ask. Okay I think we'd better move on. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid7632467 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid7632467 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab 
He's got 20/20 vision and perfect hands. Vegetable, Vegetable or Vegetable is a clever disability interpretation of the parlour game Animal, Vegetable or Mineral. In the game the t
wo hosts of the Ouch Talk Show have 90 seconds to guess what is wrong with the disabled caller on the line by asking a series of fiendishly intelligent questions. The caller must only answer \lquote yes\rquote  or \lquote no\rquote 
. It is both classic and therapeutic. 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid4474315 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab To take 
part in this intrusive and unpleasant game the rules clearly state you have to be disabled. Are you disabled Nick?
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 NICK\tab I am yes. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab The quiz starts now, we've got 90 seconds. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab Do your legs work?
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 NICK\tab Yeah. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Do your arms work? Obviously. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 NICK\tab Yeah.
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab Can you read normal manuscript}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 ,}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950  the musicy paper? 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 NICK\tab I can. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Is your hearing okay?
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 NICK\tab Yeah. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Have you got epilepsy? 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 NICK\tab No. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab A skin disorder? 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 NICK\tab No. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Do you take tablets on a regular basis for your condition?
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 NICK\tab No. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab Are you unpleasantly bald? 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 NICK\tab No. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Have you got a veruca?
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 NICK\tab I do at the moment yes, but no that's not... 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Have I got it? Oh okay. I've got corns by the way. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab Did you get the veruca at the special swimming pool?
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 NICK\tab It was, I got it last week and I'm really distressed by the whole situation. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Do you have physiotherapy? 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 NICK\tab I don't.
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Do you have hair?
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 NICK\tab Yes. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Have you thought about laser treatment?
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 NICK\tab I have. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Okay. Ooh oh really? Are you extra hairy? 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 NICK\tab No I'm just very vain. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Oh. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab You're not a piano playing wolf man then? 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Quickly. Do you have MS? 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 NICK\tab No.
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab ME?
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 NICK\tab No. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab MD?
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Dyslexia? 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 NICK\tab No. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab Bruxlexia?
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 NICK\tab None of the above. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab Dyspraxia?
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 NICK\tab No. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Schmichmaxia? Pichpaxia? There are all recognised medical... 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab Or do you just like foxhunting?
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid4474315 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab 
Or are you just an attention seeker who wanted to call up and be part of a disability thing but you're not really disabled? 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 NICK\tab No. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Oh no. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab Keep going Liz. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 NICK\tab You're never going to get it. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ AND MAT\tab Oooohhh!
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 NICK\tab See it's fighting talk now. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab Have you got a tail? 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 NICK\tab No. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab Three nipples?
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 NICK\tab No. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Oh I don't know. No knee caps? [alarm sounding]
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab All right. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Oh lordy ((0:32:36.1?))
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab ((0:32:36.1?)) Maria. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Nick, it's time for you to tell us what's wrong with you. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 NICK\tab The big reveal?
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Yeah. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 NICK\tab I was born without my right hand. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab Aaghh!
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid4474315 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 NICK\tab So when you said I'm a left 
hand specialist pianist so when you said about the arms and things my both arms function I'm just missing my hand and wrist of my right arm. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab So he was never lying. And when I asked about the octave of course it's big that should have been the clue, extra large span of the one existing useable hand. 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Oh man he's mutant, he's a mutant. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 NICK\tab I'm a mutant pianist. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab Yeh my favourite sort. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Oh brilliant a one handed piano player. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 NICK\tab Yeah.
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Oh man. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid4474315 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab I have to ask this because "Yo
u a piano player?" When people find out you're a one handed piano player what's the most common question they ask?
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 NICK\tab The most common question is, "So do you just play the left hand part of a normal piece?" I'd be like, "Well no that would be dull." So 
no that's not what I do. So basically there's loads of left hand specialist piano repertoire which is written just for the left hand and that's what I do. 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab So you only play with your left... you don't say have a prosthesis? 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 NICK\tab No. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Okay. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid4474315 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 NICK\tab 
So it's all literally specially written for the left hand by Ravel and Prokofiev big... 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid4474315 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab 
No you're famous and everything with concerts coming up. So come on give us a quick little pluggierama but not advertising any commercial companies. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 NICK\tab Can I mention my website? 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab Oh please do. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab I think you can. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 NICK\tab Yeah. All my concerts are on my website www.nicholasmccarthy.co.uk.
\par MAT\tab Great.
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid4474315 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 NICK\tab 
And I've also done a 13 question interview obviously which is going to be on the website in a couple of days I think. 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid4474315 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab 
Oh you do know that you're going to be getting the limited edition Ouch travel mug?
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 NICK\tab I know I got told yesterday I'm fairly excited about that. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Really? You could put it on top of your baby grand when you're playing. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab You can sip in between playing obviously not at the same time because... 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 NICK\tab Well no I'd have to stop playing to drink wouldn't I?
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab Yeah unless you have a straw. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 NICK\tab Unless I had a straw that's a good idea. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab I can't believe... we almost got it. We almost... 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab We were nowhere close. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 NICK\tab You didn't really. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Oh. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab No. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Well I like to pretend. Get you. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab I know Nick's from {\*\xmlopen\xmlns2{\factoidname place}}Surrey{\*\xmlclose} he's confident, he knows things. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Oh isn't' he? 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab All right, Nick, thanks ever so much. Good luck with the concerts. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 NICK\tab Thank you guys, thanks a lot. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid4474315 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab 
If you want to be the next contestant on Veg, Veg or Veg don't be shy about it, be like Nick all confident, email us now at ouch@bbc.co.uk or you could even send us a direct message on Twitter our username is 成人论坛Ouch there's no spaces. 成人论坛Ouch.
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 [Jingle: You could email the show ouch@bbc.co.uk]
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid4474315 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 
And we're back with Big Brother's Nikki Grahame. Was it hard then being in there because the food tasks are a big part of what happens in Big Brother aren't they, you know, you're deprived of food or it's a profit and reward system in terms of... 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid4474315 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab So did you try and like mess up the tasks so there wouldn't be any food? 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid4474315 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-1440\li1440\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin1440\itap0\pararsid9845323 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 NIKKI\tab Oh there was a couple of occasions one of them where I th
ink, I can't remember it was something to do with all the housemates had to do a different job, and Glyn was the house chef, we weren't allowed to eat anything unless it was prepared by Glyn. And it was awful for me because I've got all my OCD traits as w
e
ll where I have to wash my hands obsessively until they're red raw before I eat, and to have him buttering my toast it was just awful. I've got a big obsession with germs so to have anyone else touch my food I just can't... it was horrendous. But it was g
ood for me, it was really good because I had to just get on with it and do it for the other housemates.
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9845323 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Without mentioning that you had anorexia? 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9845323 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-1440\li1440\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin1440\itap0\pararsid9845323 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 NIKKI}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9845323 \tab }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 
\ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 Well no everyone knew I had OCD, I couldn't go through the whole two months of being in there, eve
ryone knew I had my own strange ways. Like I had my own mug and I wrote my name on it in nail varnish and no one was allowed to use this mug because it was Nikki's mug. 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9845323 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid9845323 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab 
Now your Big Brother love interest was Pete Bennett who famously has Tourettes syndrome did you feel like a disability solidarity or relation there? 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9845323 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 NIKKI}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9845323 \tab }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 \tab Yeah. 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9845323 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9845323 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9845323 \tab }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 Or was it just girl/boy stuff? 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9845323 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-1440\li1440\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin1440\itap0\pararsid9845323 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 NIKKI}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9845323 \tab }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 
\ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 No that's where in the first week me and Pete had this connection because we both had underlying issues. And that's why I kind of clicked with him. 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9845323 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid9845323 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab I watched that, I mean I was a fan of Big Brother and also your spin-off }
{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9845323 - }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 you did a series called Princess Nikki}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9845323  -}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 
 because you've been talking about the OCD and this can you explain about Princess Nikki and how that came about. 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9845323 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-1440\li1440\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin1440\itap0\pararsid9845323 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 NIKKI}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9845323 \tab }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 
\ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 They basically lined me up for a load of jobs which they knew would get my back up i.e., working in a sewage works for the day or... 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9845323 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab Why? That's like torture for you.
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9845323 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-1440\li1440\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin1440\itap0\pararsid9845323 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 NIKKI}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9845323 \tab }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 
\ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 It was torture and it was pretty rotten filming the show. Some bits w
ere quite fun like working in a dog kennel, that was quite fun. And the mountain rescuing. They just wanted me to lose my temper I think so it would be funny to watch. 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9845323 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Why did you do it, Nikki? 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9845323 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-1440\li1440\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin1440\itap0\pararsid9845323 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 NIKKI\tab Because I actually thought that I'd be doing job
s that I would enjoy like wedding planner or floristry \endash  things like that but I suppose it was all banter at the end of the day and a lot of people did find the show enjoyable. 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9845323 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab And you could cope with it, it wasn't that bad?
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9845323 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-1440\li1440\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin1440\itap0\pararsid9845323 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 NIKKI\tab Yeah. There were b
its where I did try and quit the show but there was a lot of money at stake. 
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Oh because I was about to ask so it was more about the money or the therapy? Because it could have been a bit of like forcing yourself to be... 
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\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 NIKKI}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9845323 \tab }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 \tab I'd say it was... 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9845323 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid2231881 MAT\tab (inaudible}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 ) therapy? 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9845323 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 NIKKI}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9845323 \tab }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 \tab Yeah a bit of both. It didn't do me any harm to get my hands dirty. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9845323 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab With the cash. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9845323 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 NIKKI\tab }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9845323 \tab }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 No with the dog poo and with the human poo. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9845323 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid9845323 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab 
So you're looking really well now. So how are you now and how do you cope with the anorexia on a day to day basis now? Are you well from it or are you still recovering from it? How do you feel? 
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\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid9845323 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab 
You see I actually don't know is it something you can get better from or is it something like alcoholism that you're always living with? 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9845323 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-1440\li1440\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin1440\itap0\pararsid9845323 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 NIKKI}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9845323 \tab }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 
\ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 
A lot of people do actually recover from anorexia but I think I was quite a critical case and to have it to the extent that I had it I think it's something that I'm actually going to live with for the rest of my life. And I do dip in and out 
of it depending on what I'm going through at the time. Unfortunately I've lost a stone in the past year and I'm trying to put that weight back on. I'm seeing a dietician at the moment. And I had a referral to {\*\xmlopen\xmlns2{\factoidname place}}
St. Vincent{\*\xmlclose}'s Square which is an eating disorde
rs outpatient clinic where I can go and get therapy. So yeah I'm waiting to see someone there. But it's important for me that I keep it in check because sometimes it is easy to slip back into it. Not to the extent, not ever to the extent how it was. And I
 
would never, ever, ever allow myself to be hospitalised again because there's just too much life out there and I've wasted enough time being in hospital. I've turned my life around since coming out of hospital and overcoming like the majority of my anorex
ia and I never want to go back to that to the extent that it was.  
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9845323 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab What made you write the book? 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9845323 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-1440\li1440\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin1440\itap0\pararsid9845323 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 NIKKI}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9845323 \tab }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 
\ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 Well writing that book was something I always needed to do. And even if I hadn't gone on Big Brother I would have written that book. It was really
 cathartic for me because all the years I was ill I had therapy but I shunned it because I didn't want to get better. So writing that book for me was like therapy it was really cathartic and it was drawing a line under it. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9845323 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid9845323 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab That's good. In the book be
cause one of the things about different impairments is they can have an impact on your body the longer you have them like I'm pretty arthritic in the hands because I overuse them and I've got little ones. What kind of effect does long term anorexia have o
n the body? 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-1440\li1440\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin1440\itap0\pararsid9845323 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 NIKKI\tab 
Well unfortunately anorexia can really damage your body. Years of starving myself I actually I stopped growing when I was 11 and I've never had a period in my whole life. 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9845323 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9845323 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab Oh wow!
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9845323 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-1440\li1440\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin1440\itap0\pararsid9845323 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 NIKKI\tab I can't have children and I developed osteopor
osis. I've got it in both hips and I've got acute osteoporosis in my spine which, you know, it's a worry for me. Everyday like when I wear heels, if I get drunk and I fall over if it's a bad fall I could be in a wheelchair. It's had so much long term dama
ge which is irreparable and it does sadden me but that's why I want to get the word out there and just say, you know, it may be one thing to be thin but look what you could do in the long term and that is undoable.}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 
\insrsid9845323 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950  
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab Okay. Thank you Nikki. Because you've really bared your soul to us there. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9845323 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Absolutely yeah. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9845323 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid9845323 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab 
Very appreciated. And a lot of people who are beginning to experience this or who have experienced this who are listening I'm sure will get a lot from it, so thank you very much. 
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\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 NIKKI\tab And thank you very much. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9845323 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 [Jingle: You're listening to the Ouch Talk show].
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9845323 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid9845323 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab 
Liz I had rather a glamorous time recently but that led to a disability thing that I wanted to tell you about. 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9845323 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Okay. Why glamorous}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9845323 ? -}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950  what have you been up to? 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9845323 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid9845323 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab Glamorous because by association Julie, my girlfriend my fianc\'e9e now, }
{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid6837904 listeners, was in a film called}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \lang9\langfe2057\langnp9\insrsid6837904  Tournee}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \lang9\langfe2057\langnp9\insrsid6837904\charrsid6837904  }{
\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid6837904 a French film with (inaudible}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 ) he's like the French George Clooney apparently. And it got official selection for the Palme d'Or at {\*\xmlopen\xmlns2{\factoidname 
place}}{\*\xmlopen\xmlns2{\factoidname City}}Cannes{\*\xmlclose}{\*\xmlclose}. So she exci
tedly insisted to brush down my suit and I'd be her 'arm candy' as she put it on the red carpet. As it turned out I was just on the sidelines holding her coat and bag for most of the day, but that was fine. It was terribly glamorous I got to see film star
s
 and directors and all that, obviously from the sidelines. Anyway it was like the one official photo call to another and it was banks of paps I mean seven high, 25 across all paparazzis all shouting "Over here, over here" in their funny French accents. An
yway this is the disability bit; one of the paps was a wheelchair user. Now I've never seen that before.  
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\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Wow!
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9845323 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid9845323 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab 
And we'd got to some pretty tricky places and in the back of my mind was how did he get here you know. But because he was a wheelchair 
user and because media people are kind of I suppose, certainly at the surface, disability friendly and it was a weird thing he got some of the best shots right, because everyone turned round and gave their special pose for him. And indeed when I was doing
.
.. I'm the supportive boyfriend of photography stuff with Julie I was like, "Oh come on let's make sure we do a special one for him" and everything. So that was all great and we left feeling, "Oh isn't it nice things are moving on, they're changing" you k
now. Anyway went home, she stays in {\*\xmlopen\xmlns2{\factoidname place}}{\*\xmlopen\xmlns2{\factoidname City}}Cannes{\*\xmlclose}{\*\xmlclose}
 comes back a couple of days later. "Did you see that photographer?" "Yes" "And he tried to get off with me. He made a pass at me, a really overt pass and tried to nab me." And I'm like, "Huh what?" Now here's my question, Liz.
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\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Okay. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9845323 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid6837904 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab 
Did he think a) she does cripples so I might have a chance? b) If she does people with disability she's got no standards therefore even I might get in there? Or, I just don't know what, am I being a silly bloke just going, "Ge
t off my lass." But have you ever come across this because a bit of me is angry with him but another bit of me is like well actually we never think that it's going to be okay if we can approach those glamorous babes which she must have looked like to him 
on the red carpet. And is it actually okay that he felt confident enough to make a pass at her. Is that disability something? I'm all confused, Liz, help me out.
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid6837904 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Well it's very flattering isn't it? But maybe you gave him confidence, maybe he didn't thi
nk he ever stood a chance with someone as glamorous as Julie or somebody like that. And that seeing that she was with a disabled person it's kind of like oh maybe, maybe. But on the other hand what I think you absolutely hit the nail on the head the thing
 that you said that I thought, "Ah yeah" is you know I know in the past myself and friends have gone for people that we know have been out with another disabled person. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid6837904 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab Because we might not have to go through all that embarrassment stuff at the beginning of it. 
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\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Absolutely. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid6837904 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab Because they do our sort anyway. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid6837904 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid6837904 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab 
Absolutely. It's like "Oh right we've been through that. I don't have to weed them out, I know that }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid6837904 they\rquote re }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 probably }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 
\insrsid6837904 not a fetishist (inaudible}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 ) I know that they're probably okay, I know that the}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid6837904 ir}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 
 reasons are about attraction and love and the right things rather than you know a bit weirdy stuff." And I think that is really common. So I would not be surprised if it was well if she's the type to go with him. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid6837904 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab But then, on the other hand, where's the sort of disabled bloke's solidarity then? 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid6837904 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab No yeah. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid6837904 
\par 
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Because you know I'd expect a little bit more respect, mate! But I'm all confused, it's really done my head in. It's like it's really hard isn't it? 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid6837904 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Do you know what as well, I mean I know it does have a disability link, but in some respects maybe it doesn't okay? We're giving it a disability link. 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid6837904 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab That's what I'm saying am I just being a bloke about this? 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid6837904 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid6837904 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Well you know he's a wheelchair user so it has a di
sability link in that sense. Maybe he's just being a bloke and kind of like "I like her, that's who I want I'm going for it." Do you know what I mean? Maybe he's a complete... maybe he goes for what, you know, maybe he goes for whoever he wants kind of th
ing. So maybe it's no more than that. I was actually more interested anyway in when you were saying that there's a disabled guy who's a paparazzi and thinking how does he get non obvious shots? 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid6837904 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab Yeah crawling through the undergrowth. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid6837904 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Do you know what I mean? 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid6837904 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab [squeaking noise] 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid6837904 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid6837904 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab 
Forgive me, could you just tip my chair back onto the curb and can I just take a picture of you while you're at it. But I love it and I love also that he presumably uses it and gets to the front. 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid6837904 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid6837904 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab Totally! An
d the thing was I watched him on another couple of sessions because it's like being a festival that you're in and out or at a wedding or a funeral you know you've only got your ten minutes. And every lot all did their special favouring the disability phot
ographer type shot. He must have the best photos from {\*\xmlopen\xmlns2{\factoidname place}}{\*\xmlopen\xmlns2{\factoidname City}}Cannes{\*\xmlclose}{\*\xmlclose} this year I reckon. 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid6837904 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid6837904 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab 
But let's hope he doesn't have to use public transport, can you imagine. "Sorry I'll be there to get those exclusive shots in a couple of days but I've got to ring in advance for my bus." 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid6837904 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid6837904 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab 
Oh boy. So what's been going with you while I've been gallivanting around the south of {\*\xmlopen\xmlns2{\factoidname place}}{\*\xmlopen\xmlns2{\factoidname country-region}}France{\*\xmlclose}{\*\xmlclose}? 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid6837904 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid6837904 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab I love it. You gallivant round the south of 
{\*\xmlopen\xmlns2{\factoidname place}}{\*\xmlopen\xmlns2{\factoidname country-region}}France{\*\xmlclose}{\*\xmlclose} I go up to The Wirral where my parents are from. 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid6837904 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab Eh? 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid6837904 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Eh Wirral queen it's true. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid6837904 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid6837904 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab The Wirral it's the posh bit of {\*\xmlopen\xmlns2{\factoidname place}}
Liverpool{\*\xmlclose}, listeners, for those of you that don't know. 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid6837904 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab It's the {\*\xmlopen\xmlns2{\factoidname place}}{\*\xmlopen\xmlns2{\factoidname PlaceName}}Wirral{\*\xmlclose} {\*\xmlopen\xmlns2{\factoidname PlaceType}}Peninsula{\*\xmlclose}{\*\xmlclose}. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid6837904 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab The {\*\xmlopen\xmlns2{\factoidname PlaceName}}Wirral{\*\xmlclose} {\*\xmlopen\xmlns2{\factoidname PlaceType}}Peninsula{\*\xmlclose} oh the {\*\xmlopen\xmlns2{\factoidname place}}
{\*\xmlopen\xmlns2{\factoidname PlaceName}}Wirral{\*\xmlclose} {\*\xmlopen\xmlns2{\factoidname PlaceType}}Peninsula{\*\xmlclose}{\*\xmlclose}.
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid6837904 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid6837904 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab But I went up there the reason I wanted to talk about it for
 the first time I think ever in my life I went around my local area on public transport. I know this doesn't sound dramatic. 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid6837904 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab That's impossible. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid6837904 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid6837904 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab 
Well firstly I mean it's only in recent years it's become that. But of course growing up as a crip c
hild my parents would take me everywhere. Transport wasn't accessible, the school bus wasn't accessible so if I went anywhere it was Mum and Dad taking me there. So there would also be places they wouldn't take me to because that's not where a decent girl
 goes, you'd keep out of the rough areas so it was the first time I actually went and used like the local train station. The first time that I could get a train over to {\*\xmlopen\xmlns2{\factoidname place}}Liverpool{\*\xmlclose}
 or get a bus on my home territory and I felt sort of naughty. 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid6837904 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab You feel like a naughty 13 year old. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid6837904 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid6837904 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab 
Yes. And I sort of felt what maybe kids feel when they're a teenager to be perfectly honest. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid6837904 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab Inexplicably wanting a cigarette. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid6837904 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid6837904 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab 
Yes what it is? Let's go and do something behind the tree, do you know what I mean? 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid6837904 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab Yeah. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid6837904 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid6837904 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab And then I got a train back from {\*\xmlopen\xmlns2{\factoidname place}}
Liverpool{\*\xmlclose} over to see my parents and like half eleven/twelve at night. 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid6837904 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab ((gasps))
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid6837904 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab I know. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid6837904 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab Were they sitting up waiting for you? 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid6837904 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid6837904 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Do you know what}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid6837904 ,}{
\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950  they were to the point that the living room curtains were still open so that they could look out. 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid6837904 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab Oh my God. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid6837904 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid6837904 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab 
Because they were... and they were expecting me to call a cab or to call them to pick me up from the station. I'm thinking oh my God I feel like I'm 14. But I never had tha
t, this is the first time I'd ever done that. And I just wondered for you, I know it's a total different impairment and all that, but was there anything that you were not allowed to do and a freedom you weren't allowed to have as a kid, were you protected
, were you stopped from doing stuff?
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid6837904 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid6837904 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab 
Unfortunately I was brought up by actors, one of whom was gay, so it was a pretty bohemian and liberal lifestyle. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid6837904 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Okay so anything went. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid6837904 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid6837904 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab Anything went. To the point where once at primary school fancy dre
ss competition I declared I wanted to go as a boxer. Without a beat they just provided me with my gloves. Now imagine looking at a man with no arms and boxing gloves stuck on his shoulders, because that's what I looked like. And I gaily went around you kn
o
w ((boxing)) and they were happy smiling there thinking well if it makes him happy. So I am brought back to that time I was in Bourton On The Water though holidaying. And this little wheelchair using kid came up to me and I had just been on telly, I'm not
 
giving it large, but all it was about was the fact that he was a confident crip coming up to somebody he'd seen on TV who he thought was cool because they'd been on TV, because you know what kids are like. And it was so like wow that would never have happ
ened when I was a kid never. 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid6837904 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Did he want to sleep with your girlfriend? 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid6837904 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab Yeah, yeah he did, he tried to get off with her. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid6837904 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Oh that's probably why he came up to you then. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid6837904 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab Hm I pushed him in the river. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid6837904 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Yeah nice. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid6837904 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 [Jingle: You're listening to the Ouch Talk Show with Mat Fraser and Liz Carr]
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid6837904 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid6837904 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab 
You know what, listeners, it would be the Ouch talk show if it didn't finish up with a track from an unsigned disabled musician. 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid6837904 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid6837904 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Wow. So we've got a member of the ska punk rock band L\'e1 Rebl\'e1
 Fam Simon Suspense Spencer joining us on the line on a mobile phone in a tube station, so apologies if quality's not great. Simon?
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid6837904 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 SIMON\tab Hello. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid6837904 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Hello there, thank you for joining us. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid6837904 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 SIMON\tab No problem at all. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid6837904 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab L\'e1 Rebl\'e1 Fam means what? 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid6837904 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-1440\li1440\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin1440\itap0\pararsid6837904 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 SIMON\tab 
Well we basically thought it was like the rebel family but apparently when translated it means a woman's dream. So we could get done for false advertising on that one. 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid6837904 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab No I'm sure you're both. Now what's the bands disability connection? 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid6837904 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 SIMON\tab The bands disability connection is myself}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid6837904 :}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950  I have Cerebral Palsy. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid6837904 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Are you the only disabled person}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid6837904 ,}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950  the only crip in the band? 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid6837904 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 SIMON\tab Some may beg to differ. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid6837904 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Excellent. And look where are you based and what type of music? 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid6837904 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 SIMON\tab It's kind of like a mismatch of punk, ska, hip-hop, rock. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid6837904 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid6837904 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab 
It kind of reminds of like festival music from the early '90s when I was involved, a little bit rough, rough and ready that kind of style, would you agree with that? 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid6837904 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 SIMON\tab Yeah most definitely. 
\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid6837904 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid6837904 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab So L\'e1 Rebl\'e1 Fam you're going to be performing at 
{\*\xmlopen\xmlns2{\factoidname place}}{\*\xmlopen\xmlns2{\factoidname City}}Glastonbury{\*\xmlclose}{\*\xmlclose} in the hub which is fantastic. 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid9265950 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid6837904 
\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid6837904 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab When I used to go to {\*\xmlopen\xmlns2{\factoidname place}}
{\*\xmlopen\xmlns2{\factoidname City}}Glastonbury{\*\xmlclose}{\*\xmlclose} there used to be me and Mick Scarlett who were the only people there that were visibly disabled. But since Attitude is Everything have been on the }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 
\insrsid6837904 case and along with ((inaudible}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 )) and everything apparently now there's like a whole hub disability friendly area is that right? 
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\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 SIMON\tab Apparently so. I'm going to find out this year most definitely. 
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ut with a track called The Animals and could you tell the listeners what it's about? 
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Okay. Basically the track called The Animals it's about the credit crunch and the recession and it's basically how you would see businessmen like leaving everything, it's basically just about the whole state of London at that time. So yeah.}{\rtlch\fcs1 
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We knew it had a bit of meat to it, a bit of political bite to it and it's a great track so we'll be playing that the end. So it's L\'e1 Rebl\'e1 Fam you can see them at {\*\xmlopen\xmlns2{\factoidname place}}{\*\xmlopen\xmlns2{\factoidname City}}Glastonb
ury{\*\xmlclose}{\*\xmlclose} and all their details are going to be on the Ouch website as ever. Thanks very much Simon for joining us. 
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\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 SIMON\tab Thank you very much. 
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\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab The end of the show, Mat, what a show!
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\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab I know. 
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\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Fantastic interview with Nikki from Big Brother. 
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I was really impressed with her. To be honest, I will say this now, now that she's gone, I didn't really think anorexia was a proper disability but boy have I learnt to eat my words. 
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\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Huc-hum. 
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\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab Get it? 
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\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab It was stunning. Excellent \endash  not the joke \endash  the interview. 
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\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab No the joke was dreadful. 
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That's all I'm saying. Well yeah it's been a great month so thank you for the team who made it happen. It's been Emma}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid3803819  Tracey, Zoe Breen and Amy Gard}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 
ner. The studio manager was Drew Lecky and we'l
l be back next month. In the meantime watch out the Ouch homepage because from the end of this month at bbc.co.uk/ouch there are some very exciting video interviews featuring people like Tricia Goddard, Gail Porter and Blaine Harrison from the Mystery Jet
s. 
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\par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-720\li720\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0\pararsid3803819 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 MAT\tab And now we play out a track with the scar punk rock from L\'e1 Rebl\'e1
 Fam called The Animals.
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\par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid9265950 LIZ\tab Until next month bye!
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