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Leadership coach Hilary Cottam, co-founder of Participle, unfolds her vision for re-designing the welfare state with participation, not passivity, at its core.

She tells the story of families whose lives have been transformed though their own involvement in making decisions about the help being provided for them.

Four Thought is a series of talks which combine thought provoking ideas and engaging storytelling.

Recorded live in front of an audience at the RSA in London, speakers take to the stage to air their latest thinking on the trends, ideas, interests and passions that affect our culture and society.

Producer: Sheila Cook.