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Ian spent twenty years working as a ranger for the Forestry Commission and it was during that time that he got to know the Nightjar.聽 They are a bird that he has worked closely with over many years, from leading guided walks to see them and giving talks about them to finding nests for ringing purposes or for television filming.聽 Nowadays Ian runs a bird watching tour company in Extremadura, Spain聽where red-necked nightjars, a slightly different species to聽the one in Britain lives, but is still just as fascinating.聽 When Ian is not leading birding tours he鈥檚 writing magazine articles and books on birds and other wildlife.

Andy is "Community and Recreation Ranger" for the Forestry Commission in Somerset and East Devon. His role is to support visitors and local communities engage with the public forest estate whether it's through recreational opportunities such as trails or through education and awareness raising such as radio interviews. Personally, I like doing this by joining up the connections between sustainable timber production and the benefits this creates for diverse wildlife habitats and public access.

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