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IN TOUCH 鈥� Paralympics

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TX:听 08.09.20听 2040-2100

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PRESENTER:听 听听听听听听听 PETER WHITE

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PRODUCER:听 听听听听听听听听听 MIKE YOUNG

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Good evening.听 Tonight, a touch of Eastern promise, although not all, as yet, fulfilled.听 We hear about the Tokyo Paralympics that should have been.听 And also:

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My name鈥檚 Tucket. I have dark hair tied up in the traditional Japanese way and I am wearing a purple flowered kimono with a gold obi sash and carrying a wooden long cane.

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White

The Japanese tradition of the goze, blind women who, for centuries, worked as travelling performers.

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But first, every four years I normally know exactly where I鈥檓 going to be in early September 鈥� covering the Paralympic Games 鈥� and specifically how are our visually impaired hopefuls are getting on.听 But, of course, this year, they鈥檝e fallen yet another victim of Covid-19, delayed for at least another 12 months.听 Well, I鈥檓 sure you can spare your sympathy for me but what about the athletes who had dedicated their lives to be in peak condition for this one moment in time?听 What will all this mean for them?

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Tim Reddish is a former Paralympic swimmer with a clutch of medals from the 1992, 1996 and 2000 Games.听 I was there and saw him win a few of them.听 He鈥檚 been National Performance Director for the GB disability swimming team and he鈥檚 chaired the British Paralympic Association.听 He鈥檚 currently an international Paralympic Committee governing board member.听 So, who better to ask about how tough it鈥檚 been on the athletes who鈥檝e lost out on the chance to compete this summer?

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Reddish

I think, at first, it was a huge shock for a lot of the athletes because you don鈥檛 just turn up at the Games and then get on with it, it鈥檚 a cycle and as you rightly said, every four years it happens.听 So, for example, when I was preparing as an athlete and a lot of these athletes that were preparing would have started their preparations four years out and then, depending on your sport, because of technical aspects, you might do new technical stuff in year one.听 So, you come to year four at a peak and then all of a sudden year four is no longer year four anymore, it鈥檚 year three plus.听 And then year four becomes year five.听 So, from that point of view it was a major shock for a lot of them.

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And what effect does that have on you?听 I mean you鈥檝e been a successful swimmer, you鈥檝e been a coach, you鈥檝e been a performance director 鈥� just explain this business of peaking at the right time and how difficult it is to recreate, as some will have to do.

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Reddish

The biggest challenge now will be where you look to get back what you鈥檝e missed because 鈥� because of Covid, athletes from all around the world have sort of been in lockdown, so they鈥檝e not been able to train.听 Yes, they鈥檝e been able to maintain some fitness but there are some sports that have that sport specificity.听 For example, you cannot replicate what you do in the swimming pool, yeah, there鈥檚 all sorts of gadgets out there to help you but feeling the water, you cannot replicate that.听 So, what they鈥檙e going to look to do is, the coaches will sit down and be scratching your heads and then giving the athletes the confidence, to say 鈥� look guys, we鈥檝e got you to here, you wasn鈥檛 quite peaked yet, we鈥檒l get back to where you was, so, this winter 鈥� and that鈥檚 the key, is going to be vital for a lot of our athletes, for those endurance athletes to get a block of winter training in.

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But I suppose it鈥檚 not just about physical condition is it, I imagine it鈥檚 about your mental condition.听 You know, people would have been psyched up for this date, you know鈥�

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Reddish

Oh yeah.

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White

鈥�and now they鈥檝e got to kind of reprogramme themselves presumably?

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Reddish

Yes, my philosophy is everything that you do is 95% psychological.听 This is the key now, is for some athletes they鈥檙e actually quite relieved because some of them were carrying injuries or may have had to have operations and weren鈥檛 quite sure whether they were ready, so they鈥檝e got another year.听 Some athletes have already been selected, some athletes have still got to qualify.听 So, psychologically there鈥檚 a lot of work to do there.听 But the one good thing about Paralympians and Paralympic athletes is that they鈥檙e good at adapting, we have to do it everyday of our lives, so we鈥檙e good at that.听 I think once they get back to some resemblance of good continuous training, they鈥檒l be fine.

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White

You鈥檝e picked up a point I was going to raise because when you say when we have to be good at adapting, you mean visually impaired people.听 And I was wondering whether there are any elements to this which applies specifically to visually impaired athletes.听 Because what we鈥檇 normally say, is we鈥檙e exactly the same as everyone else but actually, the truth, we鈥檙e not exactly the same as everyone else are we?

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Reddish

No, and some of us, visually impaired and blind people, are pretty good at visualisation because that鈥檚 part of our everyday life.听 And also we鈥檙e good at failing and when I say failing you and me have both, and I鈥檓 sure some of our listeners out there, have set out on a journey and we鈥檝e failed miserably and then we鈥檝e just had to adapt, get our head around it and move on.听 So, I think that鈥檚 where a lot of visually impaired and blind athletes 鈥� I wouldn鈥檛 say they鈥檒l have an edge but they adapt well to psychological change and adaptation as we go through.

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White

So, if you were still training what would you be saying to your athletes 鈥� your visually impaired athletes in particular 鈥� at this moment?

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Reddish

All I鈥檇 say is let鈥檚 do what we can in regards to your physical fitness, in regards to what we can do from a land conditioning point of view.听 If we鈥檙e back in the water let鈥檚 get some good technique in and get that feel back for the water, let鈥檚 not worry about the end product yet, let鈥檚 worry about all the processes.听 And psychologically I鈥檇 be saying 鈥� look guys, yes it鈥檚 another year away but just think what we can do in this year.听 Those little things that we said we wish we could have done, we can now do.

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White

But I guess and I imagine you wouldn鈥檛 say this to anyone but the truth of the matter is for some people the moment might have passed mightn鈥檛 it?

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Reddish

If this was at the end of my career it could be one year too much.听 If I, for example, the swimming programme, they would not have qualified yet, so if there鈥檚 somebody there that鈥檚 hanging on by the skin of their teeth or 100th of a second from qualifying this could be a real angst year for them.听 Whereas those youngsters coming through, snapping at your heels, they don鈥檛 half get progression quite quickly, the youngsters do, through maturation.

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White

So, they might be rubbing their hands, although trying to conceal the fact?

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Reddish

Correct, correct.

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What sort of an organisational nightmare comes with delaying a Paralympic Games for a year?

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Reddish

Obviously, I can鈥檛 speak for the BPA but I can obviously speak about the things that they will be going through because it鈥檚 the same as the International Paralympic Committee.听 What we鈥檙e going through and gone through is that you have an enormous lot of contracts in place between now and the Games and those contracts will be linked to the Games being delivered in 2020.听 So, you鈥檝e then got to look at all these different contracts.听 Insurance, for example, the insurance could change or they might say 鈥� yes, we鈥檒l extend it for another year but we鈥檙e going to whack the price up now.听 So, there鈥檚 huge amount of contract negotiations to go through, whether that be temporary staffing because you would have brought staff in temporarily six months prior to the Games and have them through the Games and six months afterwards, so do you lay them off and bring them back on?听 It becomes a lawyer鈥檚 festival of earning money I鈥檓 afraid.

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White

And of course, one of the things that Tokyo will have had to have done is produce a village, which is accessible for the Paralympic athletes 鈥� can they use what they鈥檝e already got?

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Reddish

Well this is the interesting one because normally what happens is at a Games you normally get, for example in London, the whole of East End of London was redeveloped and in Rio they had redevelopment, so as soon as the Games finished there are a number of apartments and houses 鈥� some for social housing, some for people to go and purchase 鈥� normally they鈥檙e sold within two or three months after the Games because the developers need the money.听 So, now, Tokyo are frantically looking at how do we manage this to make sure that we鈥檝e got sufficient accommodation for the Games.

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In spite of all that the rise of the Paralympics from a sports day at Stoke Mandeville in 1948 to what it is now, a major sporting event, is pretty incredible and there鈥檚 a film just out isn鈥檛 there, to be released, I think, on Netflix, which celebrates that and you鈥檝e got a bit of a connection with it.

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Reddish

There鈥檚 a good friend of mine and colleague, called Greg Nugent, who鈥檚 the producer.听 He worked on London 2012, for the organising committee, he was the brains behind a lot of 鈥� the national Paralympic day that we had in Trafalgar Square, the flame lighting ceremony 鈥� and he said 鈥� Tim, we need to tell the story about the Paralympic Movement better.听 So, he鈥檚 gone away and invested his own money and got some great people together.听 And there鈥檚 this documentary moving from the humble beginnings and the impact of London and Rio, how Rio almost didn鈥檛 happen 鈥� the Paralympic Games 鈥� because of finances and it鈥檚 telling some stories of some unbelievable athletes.听 This is the third largest sporting event in the world behind the Olympic Games and obviously the FIFA World Cup.听 And we have an opportunity as a Paralympic Movement to change people鈥檚 perceptions.听 We can鈥檛 fix everything at the Paralympic Movement through sport but what we can do is effect change through sport.

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White

So, I take it you would say 鈥� Paralympics 鈥� they鈥檒l survive this setback?

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Reddish

I think we鈥檙e better at surviving than most because we鈥檝e had to from day one, if you look at those humble roots from 1948.听 We will not collapse; we鈥檒l learn from it and we鈥檒l thrive.

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So, on a scale of one to 10, do you think and maybe me, but more importantly the athletes, will be in Tokyo this time next year?

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Reddish

I鈥檓 actually confident at the moment.听 I cannot change nature, e.g. the Covid environment, but other than that it鈥檚 a 10 out of 10.

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Tim Reddish from the International Paralympic Committee.

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Well thanks for all your emails responding to items that we鈥檝e covered in earlier programmes.听 Chris Kennet鈥檚 got in touch from Dunstable about concerns over drug shortages when the Brexit transition ends in December.听 Chris says that even before Brexit there have been recurrent shortages of his glaucoma medication 鈥� iopidine 鈥� over the past few years.听

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And Linda Dixon has also emailed on a glaucoma issue.听 She says: 鈥淚鈥檝e been prescribed monopost which I have administered for years, however, when I saw my consultant recently, he advised me that there is a new treatment available privately which would mean eye drops would no longer be necessary.听 It鈥檚 a laser procedure called a Micropulse transscleral cyclophotocoagulation鈥︹�澨� easier to take than say, I hope.听 Linda says: 鈥淚鈥檓 seriously considering this alternative despite the cost involved, as I, too, am concerned for my sight.鈥�

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Well thanks Linda and Chris, we will follow up on these developments in the weeks ahead.

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Now continuing with our Japanese theme.听 The Extant Theatre Company of visually impaired artists has developed productions both on stage and online focusing on the goze.听 Now I must say this name was new to me but for hundreds of years the goze were blind female travelling performers in Japan with their own traditions and lifestyle.听

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Maria Oshodi, the artistic director of Extant, has been telling me about them and about her online production representing their way of life.

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Oshodi

When they originated, which was back in the 16th and 17th century, there was very little in the way of employment for visually impaired and blind and partially sighted people.听 And so, the two strands of work, I suppose, that sort of developed were around music and storytelling and also around some of the therapies like acupuncture, massage and something called moxa, which is a sort of burning of leaves somewhere sort of near the meridian points in the body.听 And it鈥檚 developed around, for visually impaired people, that these were really good occupations.听 Originally there were the traditions of male blind musicians and sort of therapists that evolved even earlier, I think in the 10th and 12th century 鈥� they were called the biwa h艒shi 鈥� they kind of developed out of the temples in Japan.听 And for a long time, they dominated employment and art for visually impaired people until the female tradition sort of emerged a few centuries on.

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White

But effectively, they were wandering players, weren鈥檛 they?

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Oshodi

Absolutely.听 I mean they would travel the very hostile terrain, sometimes, of the rural Japanese countryside, moving from village to village playing for the villagers who would very, very seldom leave their villages in Japan.听 And so, these travelling groups of female visually impaired artists would be a way of them not only being entertained but also gathering knowledge, because the travellers would be picking up bits of information from each village and sharing that information as they travelled.听 They sort of incorporated what they picked up from the natural environment into their songs and into their music as well.听 And they would traditionally carry something called a shamisen instrument, which they played, which is a three stringed instrument, a bit like a mandolin and this they would strike and they would narrate stories of legends and the local history.

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White

Do we know how the goze lived Maria, you know, I mean did they get paid?

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Oshodi

Yeah, well they certainly got some money, they also got put up by the villagers and the landlords of dwellings in these villages.听 It was very much a privilege for the goze to arrive at a village but also it was an obligation for the landlords to house them.听 But in their training, it was very interesting, in order to become a gozen you trained for five years under a mistress who took control of your learning of the shamisen, it was very strict and they had a lot of rules around apparently no relationships at all.听 Towards the end of the five year training they then appeared at a festival of other gozen, which they were judged and if they were deemed to pass then they were allowed to then go out on the road and they would travel then in this little bands of three to five visually impaired groups.

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But you say it was strict 鈥� no relationships 鈥� so they weren鈥檛 allowed, if they tried to hook up with a man or a man tried to hook up with them, they got thrown out, didn鈥檛 they?

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Oshodi

Or their training would have to begin again from year one, so in some cases, you know, it took them many years to eventually pass and actually get out on the road and earn a living.

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White

And who were the women who became the goze, I mean how did you get into it and do we know how they lost their sight, were there other things which entitled you to become one?

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Oshodi

I think it was based on some level of skill and obviously it was deemed at the very beginning whether you had the talent to become an artist or you had your skills laying in other areas, like, for instance, the therapies.听 It seemed to be, before the advent of any welfare state or education, a respectable and safe and protected way for visually impaired people to enter a sort of long-term training and a way of earning a living for the rest of their lives.听 And we know that the last goze died in 2005 and now the tradition鈥檚 completely died but for a long time, right until the 20th century, there were gozes that were travelling and earning their living in this way.

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White

Now tell me a bit more about your production because you did tour, I think, a stage production last year called Flight Paths that focused on the goze, so how did you go about creating that and what will people see?

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Oshodi

Well last year we toured a physical show obviously and that was an amazing piece, it actually took us five years to develop, so that鈥檚 an interesting correlation there.听 That show we aimed to integrate the stories of contemporary visually impaired artists who have travelled around the world and landed up in the UK and found this a very beneficial place to stay and to sort of practice as artists but also the difficulties that they experience.听 And then we kind of used the framework of the goze, gave the history of the goze and information about the goze within the productions and the contemporary stories of visually impaired people included two blind aerialists and a Japanese viola player and a Nigerian soprano who were both visually impaired.听 So, what we鈥檝e done now 鈥� I mean we got this commission from The Space to create Flight Paths for a digital platform way before coronavirus and lockdown but fortunate for us the making of this digital experience coincided with lockdown, so we鈥檝e been able to work on that steadily throughout and now just launched the repurposed, I suppose, material that we created, the live performance, but within this digital platform.听 And it鈥檚 fantastic.听 We use binaural sound, so if you wear headphones you actually feel that you鈥檙e in the theatre itself.听 And we have a fantastic animated goze character that takes you through the whole journey and there鈥檚 a sort of inactive element as well, so you can actually navigate your own journey through the Flight Paths story.

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That鈥檚 Maria Oshodi, she鈥檚 artistic direction of Extant.听 And there鈥檚 a link to that digital version of Flight Paths on our own website.

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And I know Maria is planning some socially distanced outdoor performances of the stage play itself in the New Year.

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And that鈥檚 it for tonight.听 Do let us have your comments on anything that struck you in the programme.听 You can email intouch@bbc.co.uk or you can go to our website 鈥� bbc.co.uk/intouch.听 You can download tonight鈥檚 and previous programmes from there.

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From me, Peter White, producer Mike Young and studio managers Mike Smith and Celia Hutchison.听 Goodbye.

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