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It is a topic most of us avoid and yet it comes to us all.

Miriam and Lesley believe we should all be talking about death.

They are friends and colleagues at the Hull York Medical School. Their research in palliative care has led them to realise death is not a swear word. In fact, they say, discussing the inevitable is good for us all.

Recorded at the University of Hull.

Produced by Clare Crooks