Vitantonio Liuzzi - classic F1
is the latest driver to choose his five all-time favourite grands prix for ³ÉÈËÂÛ̳ Sport's classic Formula 1 series.
The HRT driver, who elected to stay in F1 for a seventh season this year with a back-of-the-grid team rather than look for a more competitive drive elsewhere, certainly knows his F1 history. The Italian's selection comprises five all-time classic events.
Liuzzi decided to join HRT this year to ensure he kept his name alive in F1
A race famous for what Liuzzi describes as the "amazing fight" between 's and Renault's over second place in the final three laps, as the two men passed and re-passed each other, occasionally banging wheels in perhaps the most frenetic three laps of racing in F1 history.
The race also marked Renault's first win in F1, courtesy of Jean-Pierre Jabouille, and the first for a car with a turbocharged engine - the type of power-plant that is returning to the sport in the new 'green' F1 from 2014.
This race featured perhaps the most chaotic closing stages in F1 history, with five different leaders vying for the win, and was described by Murray Walker at the time as "certainly the most exciting, eventful grand prix I have ever seen".
Long-time leader crashed his Renault at the chicane in a late shower of rain, leaving 's in front and on course for his first F1 win. But he, too, was caught out on the slippery track, spinning just three-quarters of a lap later than Prost, this time on the hill down from Mirabeau to Loews.
Patrese managed to bump-start his car but only after being passed for the lead by Ferrari's , who then stuttered to a halt, out of fuel, in the tunnel. That should have given the lead to 's but he, too, had stopped with an empty tank, even before he got to the site of Patrese's spin. And driver , who could also have moved up, had stopped with a broken driveshaft. All that meant Patrese crossed the line in the lead, even though, as Liuzzi points out "he didn't know he'd won".
A familiar choice, this is a race that is central to the legend of Ayrton Senna and a key event in his bitter feud with arch-rival Prost, then his team-mate at McLaren. Prost led for much of the race but was caught by Senna in the closing stages. When the Brazilian went for a pass at the chicane, the two men collided.
Prost knew he was world champion if both men retired. But as he climbed out of the car, Senna decided to continue. He pitted to replace a damaged nose cone and recovered to pass Benetton's Alessandro Nannini for a brilliant win.
Senna was later controversially disqualified, leading to the extraordinary development of McLaren appealing against the result of a race that had given the world title to one of their drivers. The appeal was unsuccessful.
Like Monaco 1982, another chaotic finish in the rain, with perhaps an even more extraordinary result. Heavy downpours led to the retirements of many leading drivers, including world champion . And the race was brought to a premature end when first crashed his Jaguar at high speed coming on to the pit straight and then 's Renault ploughed into the debris.
The result hinged on who had crossed the line at the point the race was stopped. Timekeepers initially handed the win to McLaren's but Jordan were convinced their man had won. Jordan appealed, successfully, and Fisichella was named as the winner, Raikkonen handing him the trophy at a little ceremony before the following race, the San Marino GP at Imola.
Arguably the best grand prix there has ever been - and one we dealt with when Mark Webber made his selections last week.
As always, we pick one 'feature' race, so this time we have gone for Monaco 1982. The full Grand Prix programme of the time is embedded below. Underneath it, to whet your appetites for the action in Yeongam this weekend, are links to short and extended highlights of Alonso's momentous victory in last year's inaugural Korean Grand Prix.
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Viewers in the UK can watch the classic races on digital television, where we will be showing short highlights of France 1979, Monaco 1982, Japan 1989 and Japan 2005 and extended highlights of Korea 2010.
On satellite, cable and Freeview, they will be broadcast between first and second practice on Friday 14 October from 0335-0555 BST.
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Comment number 1.
At 12th Oct 2011, cleanlang wrote:2005 Japan - yes still the top race ever for me.
Not so sure about Monaco though. btw is Monaco one of the races that ³ÉÈËÂÛ̳/SKY will generously allow licence fee payers to watch in 2012?
'Gawd bless you sirs for your kindness'.
No to SKY
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At 12th Oct 2011, SirAdamOfWarburton wrote:2005 again, but who can blame him?
Good choices other than that, thats the first time I've seen the 1979 French. I've heard all the folklore and could tell you what happened in the race but had never seen it. Truly brilliant racing.
Brazil, Japan, Monaco? Will we see any of those classics on the ³ÉÈËÂÛ̳ next year?
Yes to RTL with 5Live and a massive NO to Sky.
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At 12th Oct 2011, spongebricknick wrote:some good races there once again :)
cant imagine the current races having problems like Monaco 1982
no to sky
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At 12th Oct 2011, mr-big wrote:A link to this article of the main page would be helpful!!
Great choices by Luizzi and if he has as much good luck this weekend as he had bad luck last weekend he will probably win the Korean GP in the HRT!
To the ³ÉÈËÂÛ̳ team.
Great job at Japanese grand prix. Forum was top notch and felt as much part of the celebrations as possibly could sitting at home, all the team are excellent together, even Eddie! Please don't be tempted by a bit of extra cash to go behind the pay wall were most fans will never see you again!!
To the ³ÉÈËÂÛ̳ management
Why did ³ÉÈËÂÛ̳ abuse it's dominant position by blocking the channel 4 bid??
Why not just walk away so the bidding process could happen and F1 wouldn't be allowed to disappear behind a pay TV wall because of the Concorde Agreement??
Why being a publicly funded organisation do the worst possible deal for the people who fund it??
The fans didn't want the 15 million wasted in a joint deal with SKY which gave the loophole out of the Concorde Agreement and the non fans didn't want 15 million of their money wasted either.
When are these questions going to be answered?
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At 12th Oct 2011, SirAdamOfWarburton wrote:This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the house rules. Explain.
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At 12th Oct 2011, Czar-Orac wrote:@6.SirAdamOfWarburton
It's only a rumour based on their probable dropping of the interactive service for the remaining races, and the fact that the contract runs out at the end of this season.
But it happened to Sky Italia, so who knows.
Like I said Sky UK have an advantage over Sky Germany, in as much as the ³ÉÈËÂÛ̳ only show 50% of the races whereas RTL show them all ... but every journey starts with a single step :)
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At 12th Oct 2011, SirAdamOfWarburton wrote:@7 Czar-Orac.
I know its only a rumour but its quite easy to draw comparisons between the base model they have and we have. They have never been truly shafted like we have as it has always been a choice there between FTA and Pay Wall subscription.
If Bernie hasn't noticed this then he really is losing it, but I'm pretty sure he is aware and just doesn't care, showing complete contempt for loyal fans.
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At 12th Oct 2011, SirAdamOfWarburton wrote:Mr Benson/³ÉÈËÂÛ̳.
Why is there no link to this blog on the main page or the F1 page?
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At 12th Oct 2011, SirAdamOfWarburton wrote:@9 Myself. This has now been updated, thanks.
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Comment number 12.
At 12th Oct 2011, ferrari35 wrote:@9
Its not the bbc turn to show f1 content this week... oh sorry thats not happening till next year:D
The bbc have said they wiil grace us f1 fans with monaco next year(what a lucky lot we are).
Japan 2005 great race
No to sky
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Comment number 13.
At 12th Oct 2011, supermarketpeople wrote:Bored of the 'No to Sky' tag; get over it and direct your enthusiasum towards the sport that you love, admire and couldn't do without.
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At 12th Oct 2011, cleanlang wrote:@10 lol, thank you for that, gave me a good laugh - I was soo tempted to go and look.
Yes to fta and no to ³ÉÈËÂÛ̳/SKY deal...............
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At 12th Oct 2011, ferrari35 wrote:@13watching on rtl next year as to the spoet I (and many others) love why do you think we are protesting sky will kill f1 in the uk the bbc should of bowed out and let another fta channel take it up
So sorry your bored but I dont intend to roll over and give up anytime soon:)
No to sky
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Comment number 16.
At 12th Oct 2011, sturogers wrote:@13. supermarketpeople wrote:
Bored of the 'No to Sky' tag; get over it and direct your enthusiasum towards the sport that you love, admire and couldn't do without.
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Well, that's the whole point, isn't it. The sport we love, admire and will have to do without (yes for 50% of the races, but who wants to only watch half?) next season thanks to a waste of money that is the Olympics coverage and a certain man's epic greed.
Yes, the whole débacle is getting old now, but no-one ever got anywhere by keeping quiet, did they? ;)
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Comment number 17.
At 12th Oct 2011, Stevie³ÉÈËÂÛ̳ wrote:Dear Andrew,
Can you let me know when ³ÉÈËÂÛ̳ Sport plan to release details on their 2012 season coverage?
Following on from when, I'd like to understand the specifics so can the ³ÉÈËÂÛ̳ answer:
1) Which of the ten F1 races will the ³ÉÈËÂÛ̳ not be covering live or showing in full later that day?
2) Are ³ÉÈËÂÛ̳ attempting to re-sign Martin Brundle and David Coulthard, or is this part of the F1 cuts as well?
3) Do ³ÉÈËÂÛ̳ managment plan to make further year on year cuts to the F1 coverage throughout the duration of the deal?
4) Are ³ÉÈËÂÛ̳ doing red button F1 forums next year?
5) Do the ³ÉÈËÂÛ̳ managment feel they could have handled the announcement of the new deal better, better understood the value of F1 from audience numbers and ³ÉÈËÂÛ̳ Trust reports, and if they feel they have been taken for a ride by Bernie Ecclestone?
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Comment number 19.
At 12th Oct 2011, Swerve1 wrote:Glad to see the ³ÉÈËÂÛ̳ have finally got into the habit of screening the Classic GP's inbetween Practices 1 & 2 on freeview. Its been so obvious for the last 2.5 years, but only now has it become regular... just in time to lose the coverage.. though i hope there can be a way the ³ÉÈËÂÛ̳ can broadcast Classic GP on TV next year.. it may be one of the few trump cards it can play to combat Sky's coverage.
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At 12th Oct 2011, FRAGZIE_ wrote:Some good choices of some classic races.
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At 12th Oct 2011, Reverend Frog wrote:Excellent choice in Monaco 82 - a couple of points. Firstly, the speed at which they went through the post-tunnel chicane was mind-blowing! Secondly, who was in charge of the opening titles that season? As 'The Chain' explodes into life we have a shot of a mechanic polishing a Lotus. Dramatic stuff.....
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At 12th Oct 2011, tifosi2k11 wrote:some good choices in there just a shame its 50% of what we all be able to watch next year unless you are prepared to watch the ten races the ³ÉÈËÂÛ̳ wont be showing on sky for £470.00 in standard def or £600 for HD and lets face it most people can not afford that sort of luxury especially with finances and job security being what it is now. Imagine you team only winning the races that are not shown free to air so all you get is a pointless highlights program thats lost all the tension and excitement of a full LIVE race where you probably already know the result.what a disgusting way to treat fans that have been loyal to the sport..... no to sky
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Comment number 27.
At 12th Oct 2011, Kris wrote:Classic choices
no to Tony Jardine
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Comment number 28.
At 12th Oct 2011, tifosi2k11 wrote:@27 so true what tony jardine knows about F1 would fit on a Nat's nut plus he has the charisma of brick and he is typical of the sky broadcasting team
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Comment number 30.
At 12th Oct 2011, R0B-T wrote:2005 Japan, a great race thats for sure. I wonder if we will ever be able to see another great race from Japan, or just some limited highlights of what they "tell us" was as good as 2005.
The Astra idea doesnt help those that cant have a sattelite dish for whatever reason, but still its good to know about it.
Yes to terristrial TV
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At 12th Oct 2011, SirAdamOfWarburton wrote:This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the house rules. Explain.
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At 12th Oct 2011, SirAdamOfWarburton wrote:Here we go again....one mention of RTL and the ³ÉÈËÂÛ̳ censor talk about competition. This has not broken the house rules and therefore does not warrant further consideration. Please consider the comment and come to the conclusion that I am entitled to talk about satellite positions and which feed I will be using to watch F1.
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At 12th Oct 2011, Czar-Orac wrote:Using the word 'align' means the moderators make you sit on the naughty step.
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Comment number 34.
At 12th Oct 2011, spongebricknick wrote:I reckon the ³ÉÈËÂÛ̳ will get priced out of all the good races and be left with the not so entertaining races
³ÉÈËÂÛ̳ - Silverstone, Monaco, Brazil, Malaysia, Spain, Hungary, Korea, China, Monza, Indian
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Comment number 35.
At 12th Oct 2011, cleanlang wrote:@17 I do hope that red button forums are not another victim of this SKY deal, tho' let's be honest anything could happen now given how much has been surrendered
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Comment number 36.
At 12th Oct 2011, BRG wrote:@18. Thats right block a comment that simply points out a perfectly legal, alternative way of watching F1 next year.
No To Sky!
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Comment number 37.
At 12th Oct 2011, Alan177 wrote:Ho Hum, My comment 23 up for consideration.
I didnt break the rules but I guess I have a dirty email on the way...........
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At 12th Oct 2011, SirAdamOfWarburton wrote:@33 I wouldn't mind so much if the comments then reappeared but they don't. Removed for consideration should be rephrased to say censored.
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Comment number 39.
At 12th Oct 2011, BRG wrote:What happened to Free speach ³ÉÈËÂÛ̳? I said nothing illegal, did it go out the window when you did the dirty with Sky?
No To Sky!
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Comment number 41.
At 12th Oct 2011, Feldybhoy wrote:Check out this link:
Im sorry its so late! I had started writing this post at 9am but then Tony Jardine started talking and well when I eventually woke up it was lunchtime! Im not sure if this is a skybet presentation but if not there is a hell of alot of "bet talk" going on. Odds on this odds on that, very little in the way of actual information. In the spirit of Sky, the odds of me watching this tosh? Hmmmmm about the same odds of Lord Lucan riding Red Rum to a Grand National win on Mars!
No to Sky, No to Tony Jardine and no to gambling!
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Comment number 42.
At 12th Oct 2011, Ichabod_76 wrote:At 11:41 12th Oct 2011, supermarketpeople wrote:
Bored of the 'No to Sky' tag; get over it and direct your enthusiasum towards the sport that you love, admire and couldn't do without.
Why don't your bosses at Sky like it ?
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Comment number 43.
At 12th Oct 2011, Kris wrote:@Feldybhoy I've seen some of the current sky program, they do flog the sky bet stuff a lot, its shocking, I wonder why Tony Jardine said Vettel wouldn't win when he was romping away with the title???
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Comment number 44.
At 12th Oct 2011, BRG wrote:@41. Just watched it, he was wrong about almost all of it. And is that a little Bias towards British drivers I see in there too? We wouldn't get that with the ³ÉÈËÂÛ̳.
No To Sky.
No To Jardine.
No to ³ÉÈËÂÛ̳ bonuses.
Yes to FTA.
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Comment number 45.
At 12th Oct 2011, Kris wrote:the ³ÉÈËÂÛ̳'s F1 coverage is award winning, and something they should have been proud of, certainly pround enough to keep it. and as pointed out at singapore the locals there would rather have our coverage than their own. given the choice I'd watch F1 on any channel, but next years option is pathetic in comparison.
No to Tony "i'm as dull as joy riding a Maxi" Jardine
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Comment number 46.
At 12th Oct 2011, Feldybhoy wrote:Probably trying to get people to bet on other drivers. Ive noticed that Sky "pundits" do alot of this. If one team is odds on to win something the "pundits" will claim that there is x and y reason that they might lose and that its still worth a punt on z. I might just be paranoid but everytime I watch football or boxing on Sky they always give alot of reasons that the favourate might lose! Or it might just be that Tony Jardine knows very very little about F1! Lol
No to Sky!
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Comment number 47.
At 12th Oct 2011, BRG wrote:Nice to see my other comments are being removed, if this continues I will be forced to take legal advice.
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Comment number 48.
At 12th Oct 2011, SirAdamOfWarburton wrote:Tony "charisma King" Jardine is a legend. The guy knows nothing about what he is talking about but what annoys me most is his conviction. He is always adamant that he is right even though what he is saying is questionable.
I'd rather have Derrick Warwick present it, at least he knows what he is talking about and doesn't talk with a tone of voice that implies everything he says is FACT, and not open for discussion.
On second thoughts, Plankton or pond weed is more interesting than Tony "Blinky Bill" Jardine.
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Comment number 49.
At 12th Oct 2011, BRG wrote:So has it been confirmed Jardine will be part of sky's line up next year?
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Comment number 50.
At 12th Oct 2011, lefthanddial wrote:I dont mind the NO TO SKY every week, and the continued protest - that does not bother me - what does bother me are the lame attempts at humor - oh i can see the pictures but the content must be on the sky page ha ha - GROW UP !
good choices Luizzi ! YES TO SKY !
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Comment number 51.
At 12th Oct 2011, Kryten wrote:Sorry to continue with the off topic discussion but SKY germany losing F1 is a shame for 1 reason. No more Tanja for Martin to flirt with on the grid. Other than that great that Murdochs rotten empire is losing F1.
I know Ill be cancelling my licence fee come the final race this year, I dont watch enough on TV besides F1 for me to keep paying it and who wants to watch highlights?
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Comment number 52.
At 12th Oct 2011, david wrote:its sad that all everyone talks abut now is the bbc/sky deal (i am against it) it would be nice to know a real reason for them ruining formula 1 for loyal fans, also reasonably good choice by liuzzi
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Comment number 53.
At 12th Oct 2011, coachdriver56 wrote:79 French......I was there!!!!!,
Great finish,poor circuit to view at,went three times,said each time i would not go back.
But Gilles still my all time great driver.
Will wait for full details from bbc on next years treats,what is shown live,how other will be shown,then look at freesat box,i have a second dish on side of house,so it could point a little different way to now.........
NO TO SLY,YES TO FTA..........
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Comment number 54.
At 12th Oct 2011, Tom Cook wrote:Great choices, anyone know if there is a page which has a list of all the Classic F1 videos?
No to sky
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Comment number 55.
At 12th Oct 2011, dountothemastheydountoyou wrote:another week goes by and the new "sky sales team" (formerly the ³ÉÈËÂÛ̳) still ignoring the off message voice of the fans.......
SHAME ON THE ³ÉÈËÂÛ̳ - NO TO SKY & NO TO A TV LICENSE in 2011
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Comment number 56.
At 12th Oct 2011, Diamondrush wrote:@54 has all the direct links
Good choices by Liuzzi, hopefully we will see more of this feature next year - any idea of when the coverage details will be announced for next year, Andrew? I have a recurring nightmare of our coverage next year being fronted by Keith Huewen and Tony Jardine, with the corporate side of John Watson thrown in for good measure.
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Comment number 57.
At 12th Oct 2011, Czar-Orac wrote:@51.Kryten
It's only a rumour based on the proposal to drop their interactive features for the rest of the season, the very same interactive features Sky UK will be trying to sell their coverage on ... Only 2.5% of Sky Germany F1 viewers ever try them out.
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At 12th Oct 2011, Jack wrote:Excellent choices though we have had them before. Monaco the end of '82 is always suprising nomatter how many times I see it though! Does seem a pity that the full ³ÉÈËÂÛ̳ archive is being overlooked for repeats but its still an excellent feature. Do hope it sticks around for next year. Will be just about the only ³ÉÈËÂÛ̳ F1 worth watching.
no to sky.
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Comment number 59.
At 12th Oct 2011, BRG wrote:@51 as far as im aware Murdoch only owns part of BSkyB (British Sky Broadcasting) and makes no money from the German version of sky TV.
No to Sky.
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Comment number 60.
At 12th Oct 2011, Skibba wrote:For a back of the grid driver he's probably picked the best selection this season.
To people saying 'No to SKY' - how about 'No' to you. This is about classic F1 races. If you still ain't happy with the ³ÉÈËÂÛ̳ then write on a piece of cardboard and stand outside their building. But obviously you prefer to do your shouting from behind a keyboard.
Grow up.
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Comment number 61.
At 12th Oct 2011, LFCHEROES wrote:i cant wait to read RTLs viewing figures next year their gonna think theyve won the lottery if eveyone in the UK who says their getting actually does get it and not bend over for sky
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Comment number 62.
At 12th Oct 2011, KarenC20 wrote:I have Sky but I have so many passionate F1 fan friends that do NOT I have to say I think it is terrible to put it on pay TV ....... perhaps it could be justified if you could have a full motorsport programme to explore ie WRC . DTM. Nascar ect but no you have to subscribe to ESPN for WRC another £10 a month consequently we are paying for a lot of golf, cricket and football we are not interested in ....... hmmmmm ³ÉÈËÂÛ̳ what are you thinking :( it would be far better to let it go to channel 4 or 5 you have had amazing awesome coverage up until now but frankly I think you are letting the motor sport loving public down now shame on you ...... I am sorry I did not want my first post here to be negative but what choice do you leave us ?????
Big massive NO to Sky despite the fact I will be alright
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Comment number 63.
At 12th Oct 2011, NoToSky wrote:³ÉÈËÂÛ̳ = Shambles
No to sky
No to the tv license
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Comment number 64.
At 12th Oct 2011, Dartanian wrote:On Radio4 today they said that ³ÉÈËÂÛ̳ ITV C4 and C5 all pay Sky about £10 Million to put them on the Sky satalite and are about 50% of theSky content that is watched and if you add the rest of the teresteral chanels ³ÉÈËÂÛ̳ 3 4 etc that is about 60% of skys watched output why !!!!
I think Sky should pay ³ÉÈËÂÛ̳ etc to go on the satelite out of their vast profits filling the funding gap
who would have Sky without ³ÉÈËÂÛ̳ etc
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Comment number 65.
At 12th Oct 2011, Dartanian wrote:OOps forgot No to Sky
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Comment number 66.
At 12th Oct 2011, John wrote:I just don't get it. The whole Sky/³ÉÈËÂÛ̳ deal smells a bit funny to me. You'd like to think these people were listening wouldn't you? This Classic F1 feature seems to have been put out to pasture as well with the same races featuring on a regular basis. Good races they may be but a bit of variety never hurts. With the exception of some of the smug people who have Sky already, I've not seen a good word said about this "deal". But I fear for F1, that it will fade away like the boxing, tennis, golf, football, etc. Shame, was bloomin' brilliant while we had it.
No to Sky.
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Comment number 67.
At 12th Oct 2011, El_Sneak wrote:Nice choices, Brazil 03 is always good to see again for the drama.
Yes to Sky !
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Comment number 68.
At 12th Oct 2011, mrgrieves05 wrote:On satellite, cable and Freeview, they will be broadcast between first and second practice on Friday 14 October from 0335-0555 BST.
Wow classic gp's only on from 2hours before almost anyone is up. What a joke! whats even the point in having it? As if the TV licence isnt a big enough waste of money!
YES to sky. Roll on to there committed coverage in 2012 after ³ÉÈËÂÛ̳ totally sold us sports fans out!
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Comment number 69.
At 12th Oct 2011, Damian wrote:Good choice for the races.
Re Sky/³ÉÈËÂÛ̳ it's pritty obvious that apart from the races declared the rest shown on the ³ÉÈËÂÛ̳ will be the ones in the wee hours of the morning as Sky will want races that can be watched in the pubs.
Tretcherous deal and disgrace that no-one on the coverage will address this. I guess they're all sniffing around sky for big money deals and don't want to harm their chances.
It's a BIG topic and the fingures in ears 'la-la-la-we-can't-hear-you' approach is a pigging disgrace. I already have my German decoder and am ordering the satalite dish. Thanks a bunch for making me have to fork out for it, you bunch of muppets!
You can shove sky where the sun don't shine (that a better tag for you?)
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Comment number 70.
At 12th Oct 2011, ferrari35 wrote:Hi Andrew
On one of your past blogs you stated that the bbc did not practice censorship yet any post about how rtl is still free to air or and post detailing correspondence from Amp's is removed by the mods even if its on topic.
To the mods
Hi guys:) I know your all very excited that the race is in Korea this weekend but its in the south of the country not the north so no need to keep getting all kim jong ill on us every time we post something that you don't like.(i.e. freedom of speech or freedom of choice or anything that might show your bosses in a bad light)
Japan 2005 is the best race up there but we have seen it before so Im going to go with any of the other races.
No to sky
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Comment number 71.
At 13th Oct 2011, Alonso_P1 wrote:All the races have been shown before...
BUT
Why did the bbc block the channel 4 bid and insted braught sky to the table ??????????
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Comment number 72.
At 13th Oct 2011, rob wrote:Some nice choises there, obv there will be the same classic race choices over and over so i feel your pain Andrew having to find us fresh videos every week :)
No ot Sky
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Comment number 73.
At 13th Oct 2011, The_Auditor wrote:I am finding it hard to comment on classic races when I said 'great choice' last week to Webber. I see the logic of the choices, but it's looking like an empty excercise now.
I grew up watching them with Murray, followed Graham, Nigel and Damon, and all through the Schumacher years. Glorious.
For those who are interested, a very short businessman has commented that he will 'put a stop to that' when questioned about fans listening to 5 live whilst watching an 'alternative' broadcaster, and also RBS have published some crazy monetary/viewing figures praising the 'coup' S*y have pulled off. And it talks about nine races on ³ÉÈËÂÛ̳ now, not ten. It has started already, watch the gods fall........
NO TO SKY
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Comment number 74.
At 13th Oct 2011, ExcessBaggage wrote:@ All the anti-Sky protestors complaining about moderation and mentioning "freedom of speech". You don't have "freedom of speech" in here. This blog is ³ÉÈËÂÛ̳ property so the ³ÉÈËÂÛ̳ are allowed to make the rules.
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Comment number 75.
At 13th Oct 2011, Di Livios Florencia Viola wrote:@ 74 Mr Excess
Didn't last long did it?
You couldn't resist getting involved, your like one of those people who for some reason deliberately holds views different from everyone else to wind them up. Commonly known as a WUM. Must be fun in the 'Baggage' household!!!
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Comment number 76.
At 13th Oct 2011, coachdriver56 wrote:I see another sly sports person getting done for drink drive after a crash this morning on M4.....Does F.I.A really want F1 being handled by drunks?,not sending out a good road safety message..........
NO TO SLY/SPY
On topic,I still hate Dijon as circuit,79 French was classic finish......
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Comment number 77.
At 13th Oct 2011, BRG wrote:@60. Well as much as I would love to go and bug the ³ÉÈËÂÛ̳ outside television centre, I have to go back to work in an hour so no I can't do that whereas this takes a couple of seconds.
@74. Well we will see about that as the ³ÉÈËÂÛ̳ is funded bt the public and as member of the public, I think I should be able to speak my mind. I have asked a good friend of mine who is a solicitor, to look over my comments and see if there is any justification in them being removed.
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Comment number 78.
At 13th Oct 2011, BRG wrote:Oh and I forgot No To Sky!
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Comment number 79.
At 13th Oct 2011, ExcessBaggage wrote:@ Fantantonio. As many posters have noted already, the ³ÉÈËÂÛ̳ have provided everyone with a complaints procedure to air their grievances and make them known to ³ÉÈËÂÛ̳ management. This blog is not the most suitable place for protesting. Apologies if you fing my pointing that out to be inconvenient, but it doesn't really qualify me as a WUM.
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Comment number 80.
At 13th Oct 2011, ExcessBaggage wrote:@ BritishRacingGreen_No_To_Sky. You are able to speak your mind as a licence fee payer. The ³ÉÈËÂÛ̳ hold consultations and provide means to submit feedback and complaints. I suggest that if you explored those legitimate avenues of commmunication there would be no need to waste your solicitor friends time. As for your removed comments, I'm sure the ³ÉÈËÂÛ̳ can justify it. It's their house, so their rules apply and they are clearly published for everyone to see.
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Comment number 81.
At 13th Oct 2011, colkx250 wrote:Morning Troll..
Four F1 races to go on ³ÉÈËÂÛ̳, make the most of it, its F0.5 for 2012
No to F0.5
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Comment number 82.
At 13th Oct 2011, BrightLampShade - Not606 Formula 1 wrote:Thanks for the highlights as always ³ÉÈËÂÛ̳
Its been a bit of a sad week, the last WDC we will all get to see properly for some time, So few people seem interested in getting sky (or have sky) in the F1 world, I really fear it will harm the sport.
Teams aren't going to stick around if no one is watching. I blame the ³ÉÈËÂÛ̳ quite a bit for letting this happen but its also Bernie's fault. Is he trying to destroy F1 before he retires, make it look like he was the only one who could do it.
The deals a disgrace, NO TO SKY.
Power to the 6million F1 viewers
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Comment number 83.
At 13th Oct 2011, LFCHEROES wrote:i know iit wont change anything but can someone tell me when the beeb are up infront of the politicians over this? as i very much doubt ill hear whats gone on here in the bubble of bbc world
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Comment number 84.
At 13th Oct 2011, HCumber wrote:No to highlights, no to selling the fans out, no to getting into bed with the Murdochs, no to blocking FTA deals and screwing over the license payer.
The sooner this deal is proven to be illegal the better.
No to Sky!
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Comment number 85.
At 13th Oct 2011, Di Livios Florencia Viola wrote:@ 79 Mr Excess
Has anyone got any toilet paper, Mr Excess's nose is very brown.
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Comment number 86.
At 13th Oct 2011, Czar-Orac wrote:@59.BritishRacingGreen_No_To_Sky
News Corp' owns just under 50% of Sky Germany.
They even boast about it on their website, and the owning of BSkyB (Sky UK) and Sky Italia, and Rupert Murdoch is Chairman of the Board & Chief Executive Officer.
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Comment number 87.
At 13th Oct 2011, lefthanddial wrote:@79 - good point, fed up with this blog being a board of no to sky posts ! be good next year when this lot are not watching and wont have to put up with them !
Also Lewis Hamilton is not the best driver - not won the WDC sinc 2008 - Lewis fans get over it - Jenson is way better then him -
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Comment number 88.
At 13th Oct 2011, GrassRootsF1Fan wrote:Hi Andrew!Thanks again for this and to Vitanio Liuzzi.Will try and watch tonight on Freeview between practices - my computer doesnt load video well if at all while using accessability technology!The 1979 French, 1982 Monaco were before my time while Japan 1989 i would of been too young for so these will definitely be a good watch!The other two i have seen but happy to watch again.Do struggle to keep up sometimes with just highlights though but maybe just me??Also wondered if any of the F1 fans here have seen this /blogs/aboutthebbc/2011/03/delivering-quality-first---exp.shtml as on that blog ³ÉÈËÂÛ̳ promise not to make any cuts including to sports rights without public consultation first and would be transparent.Sorry for this bit if class as off topic Andrew.Feel free to delete but really i think F1 fans should have a chance to see what the ³ÉÈËÂÛ̳ said publically and judge for themselves in the cicumstances in the ³ÉÈËÂÛ̳ went against that with F1.Best wishes and again thanks for classic F1!
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Comment number 89.
At 13th Oct 2011, ferrari35 wrote:@87
Some might give up posting about it next year I wont Im here long term:D
@79 been there,done that and got the tee shirt just got the run around by the bbc so Im going for a more public protest:)
No to sky
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Comment number 90.
At 13th Oct 2011, tommybrusher wrote:john 66
I've not seen a good word said about this "deal". But I fear for F1, that it will fade away like the boxing, tennis, golf, football, etc. Shame, was bloomin' brilliant while we had it.
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Of course Football, the game that faded away, do they still play it these days?
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Comment number 91.
At 13th Oct 2011, SirAdamOfWarburton wrote:Does anyone know of any F1 DVDs of old races that you can buy? Maybe compilations of the best races but so I can watch them in full?
Yes to RTL with 5Live
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Comment number 92.
At 13th Oct 2011, SirAdamOfWarburton wrote:Tweet from Jake:
Seems #bbcf1 is globally famous. Signing autographs whilst walking around with a driver is just embarrassing, every country seems to watch!
Not next year they won't!!!
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Comment number 93.
At 13th Oct 2011, ShaGGy_UK wrote:From next year Formula 1 will be known as Formula 0.5
Yes to Formula 1 on the ³ÉÈËÂÛ̳
No to Formula 0.5 on the ³ÉÈËÂÛ̳
As for viewership for F1 the Sun did an article on Football and since they switched from PPV to FTA in asia they saw an increase of over 11% immediately and profits jumped accordingly due to the extra exposure it received, How Bernie can not see this is just proof he is due for the glue factory :)
Don't forget
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Comment number 94.
At 13th Oct 2011, livpoksoc wrote:Thanks to Liuzzi for the choices. Very good ones at that, even if repeats.
Still echoing everyone else's comments - No to Sky!
The ³ÉÈËÂÛ̳ are shameful in not even acknowledging the pages of complaints here!
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Comment number 95.
At 13th Oct 2011, SCHEESEB wrote:Yawn ............. Get over it ........
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Comment number 96.
At 13th Oct 2011, SirAdamOfWarburton wrote:@95 The short answer is "no".
The longer, more detailed answer is "not until we have found out the plans for coverage, not until we have seen if the deal is legal, and certainly not until the ³ÉÈËÂÛ̳ at least acknowledge the annoyance and betrayal felt by loyal fans".
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Comment number 97.
At 13th Oct 2011, ExcessBaggage wrote:@ SirAdamOfWarburton. What you really mean is that you and the other unhappy bunnies are going to carry on mewling like children because you couldn't get your own way.
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Comment number 98.
At 13th Oct 2011, Stevie³ÉÈËÂÛ̳ wrote:Great classics Tonio, still amazed by Alonso's pass on Schuey round the outside of
130R, Schuey looked broken straight after. While we're talking about classic F1, which are your favourites...
Excess Baggage - Classic F1 blog quotes: part I
1) "seems to me like a gross distortion of the facts and a massive over-simplification
to claim the ³ÉÈËÂÛ̳ is only showing half a season of F1."
2) "In your eagerness to patronise me, you appear to have overlooked something quite fundamental. Luckily for you I was able to use my knowledge and prowess (sic) to work it out on your behalf."
3) "Sky taking the rights could be the best deal Bernie has ever done."
4) "I'm not going to repeat myself anymore because all my pleas and reasoning will be ignored anyway. "
5) "This next bit of advice is in no way meant to patronise you or come across as
sneering or condescending, but "
6) "The ³ÉÈËÂÛ̳ haven't axed F1. They will still be showing it."
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Comment number 99.
At 13th Oct 2011, Stevie³ÉÈËÂÛ̳ wrote:I also love the ZX Spectrum graphics in the Monaco 82 classic programme...
Excess Baggage - Classic F1 blog quotes: part II
7) "if I've managed to counter some of the incorrect assertions just enough that one neutral fan now stops to think with their head rather than their heart, even if just for a second, then I'll feel I've achieved something."
8) "I should point out that empty threats of ASBO's and jail sentences won't work with me."
9) "The matter of disrespect pertains to the en-masse spamming of the ³ÉÈËÂÛ̳'s website output"
10) "the Concorde Agreement is super-confidential. Personally, I doubt it even exists."
11) "Your stance of watching F1 via internet streams probably won't affect Sky and will likely make even less difference to the overall scheme of things. That's because you will still be part of the audience"
12) "But of course, I could be totally wrong about all of that."
;)
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Comment number 100.
At 13th Oct 2011, ShaGGy_UK wrote:@95 as you are on a F1 blog I think it would be safe to presume you are a fan of the Sport? if so do you not realise the damage the SKY deal will do to the sport in the UK?
Sky work on numbers and numbers only, if (which they will not) they don`t attract enough new subscribers to justify the F1 expenditure they will like other sports demote it's importance and considering the ³ÉÈËÂÛ̳ can only show 0.5 of the races it will damage the sports following and ruin it for all in the UK.
Just to note I have SKY and Sports yet I am dead against this deal for the interest of the sport I have watched since being a kid (with my dad) and now watch with mt son and grandsons.
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