Round up: Tuesday 20 October 2009
The ³ÉÈËÂÛ̳ Trust's decision to not approve Open iPlayer and the ³ÉÈËÂÛ̳'s proposal to share the iPlayer technology with other broadcasters is today's big news at ³ÉÈËÂÛ̳ Internet blog towers. Commenters on are baffled by the ruling:
"It would be hugely to the advantage of licence fee payers to be able to receive all the channels and available programming via one-stop iPlayer .... what does someone have to be on to think otherwise?!?"that while the Trust is happy for the ³ÉÈËÂÛ̳ to syndicate its content and to license the iPlayer technology to others, "What the Trust hasn't permitted is the ³ÉÈËÂÛ̳ itself being an aggregator".
As , whatever else it may be up to, the ³ÉÈËÂÛ̳ Trust certainly isn't in cahoots with ³ÉÈËÂÛ̳ management.
³ÉÈËÂÛ̳ and Arqiva have agreed on their DTT HD upgrade plans as .
Talking of HD TV, the ³ÉÈËÂÛ̳'s Head of HD Danielle Nagler is due to appear on Points of View in a few weeks and is, according to the show's presenter Jeremy Vine, waiting for your comments and complaints. You can send in your opinion as a video (but note bandwidth is limited - smaller than 10mb or less than 30 seconds).
³ÉÈËÂÛ̳ online boss Erik Huggers on the iPlayer and other related items can be heard on Radio 4's Feedback.
On Digital Spy there's a lot of comment on Neil Christie's thread .
And finally don't let the cold weather put you off pottering round the garden. To help you know what to do when developer Duncan Robertson has created a . And no, it's not the singer.
(Exec Editor's update (NR): My favourite blog post of the past fortnight comes , who says of the ³ÉÈËÂÛ̳ Internet blog:
"Who is this blog written for? I don't know. It seems to be random pieces of information surrounding ³ÉÈËÂÛ̳ Online, recent projects and challenges. I love it."Spot on.)
Paul Murphy is the Editor of the Internet blog.
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At 20th Oct 2009, KernowChris wrote:Tragic news about the iPlayer aggregator error by the Trust, a double whammy today along with the dropping of 302 on Freeview, despite being told in a previous ³ÉÈËÂÛ̳ post that it was safe.
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At 20th Oct 2009, ropies wrote:Appalling news on the iPlayer. Yet another gigantic set back.
These little snippets since the beginning of August that are more or less weekly are a pretty nifty blog Paul Murphy.
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At 21st Oct 2009, Russ wrote:In his interview on Feedback, I struggled to understand any of Eric Huggers' attempt to justify why people abroad should be allowed to access iPlayer free of charge. Not only did Huggers fail to answer Roger Bolton's introductory question, he launched into a bizarre distinction between the different rights worlds of radio content and TV content on the basis that radio had been "around for a long time before iPlayer arrived on the scene". Having justified why radio should be free to everyone, he then went on to argue that TV content, and by implication even live TV content, shouldn't be paid for either because much of the content, being commissioned from independent companies, was "often not the ³ÉÈËÂÛ̳'s". Given that much of ³ÉÈËÂÛ̳ radio output also comes from independent companies, why did Huggers continue to argue on the basis of rights distinctions?
1 If Huggers was in fact stating that the ³ÉÈËÂÛ̳ is content with its income stream from UK residents alone, why didn't he just admit that plain pragmatic fact?
2 If Huggers is admitting that the rights situation on radio content is not worth worrying about in the overall picture of ³ÉÈËÂÛ̳ income and expenditure, why are we often told that older radio gems cannot be transmitted because of cost or rights issues?
3 Was Huggers admitting that any attempt to derive rights incomes from abroad would complicate or jeopardise the ³ÉÈËÂÛ̳'s relationships with foreign broadcasters?
Russ
cc: feedback@bbc.co.uk
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At 21st Oct 2009, HD wrote:I agree with Neil Christie's post about Twitter. I don't think the ³ÉÈËÂÛ̳ should be promoting this company. It should be more open and independent and not promote any one company. If it want's to "Tweet", I think it should use something like bloggs instead. The ³ÉÈËÂÛ̳ is not supposed to advertise or promote and by continually saying the name of this company/website, having whole articles or programs based on it, that is what they are doing.
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At 21st Oct 2009, TV Licence fee payer against ³ÉÈËÂÛ̳ censorship wrote:"On Digital Spy there's a lot of comment on Neil Christie's thread The ³ÉÈËÂÛ̳ is obsessed with Twitter."
Perhaps the 'Twits' [1] within the ³ÉÈËÂÛ̳ might start getting the message now, by all means be 'Twits' yourself but stop forcing your obsessions onto others and stop the 'product placement' of Twitter Inc. at every excuse...
[1] 'Twits' - those who use the services of Twitter Inc.
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At 21st Oct 2009, Mo McRoberts wrote:@Russ:
One would have thought that overseas access [to something approaching iPlayer] would be a purely commercial matter for ³ÉÈËÂÛ̳ Worldwide, as they have responsibility for distributing the content, in many cases to other broadcasters as you suggest. I’m not entirely sure those responsible for the iPlayer in the UK have much say (other than from a technical perspective) would have much involvement in such a decision.
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At 23rd Oct 2009, Paul Murphy wrote:#3
Hi ropies
Thanks for your feedback on the Round up. The plan is to do it once a week (or so). It's part of a plan to try and direct people to where the most interesting conversations about ³ÉÈËÂÛ̳ online are happening - often they're not on our website. We've been lucky recently - there's been lots going on!
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At 23rd Oct 2009, Paul Murphy wrote:#4
Hi Russ,
Received this earlier from Erik's office. I'm hoping that it answers your questions:
"TV programmes are not available outside the UK for two reasons.
Firstly, in most cases we have rights to distribute the programmes in the UK only. In some cases ³ÉÈËÂÛ̳ Worldwide has purchased the rights outside the UK, and sells that content abroad generating a valuable source of revenue back to rightsholders and to the ³ÉÈËÂÛ̳ to be invested in programming.
Secondly, we simply cannot fund the potentially huge cost of iPlayer TV streaming outside the UK, and for that reason don't make iPlayer TV programmes available outside the UK.
We are able to make radio content available worldwide because those rights restrictions don't exist, the cost of distributing low-bitrate radio streams is minimal and the commercial potential is extremely limited. These audio streams have been available internationally since 1998 (live radio) and 2002 (on demand radio)."
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At 24th Oct 2009, _marko wrote:Why doesn't ³ÉÈËÂÛ̳ Worldwide embrace the streaming model and distribute programmmes outside the UK? Isn't streaming the most efficient method of distribution?
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