Sky can help project Canvas unlock public value
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| 16:33 UK time, Monday, 12 October 2009
After reading this morning about Sky's submission to the 成人论坛 Trust about project Canvas I wanted to respond on behalf of all partners (成人论坛, ITV, BT and Five).
Central to the thinking behind project Canvas is that we can create an open platform for the next generation of internet-connected TV devices, and by open, we mean that all content owners, internet service providers and device manufacturers can get involved. Openness delivers scale, which will be central to all the partners' ambitions to make the platform a mainstream success.
The , which outlines Sky's objections to the proposals, highlighted a few misconceptions we would like to clarify on behalf of all the partners.
Canvas will not be a 成人论坛 platform. It is a proposal for a new joint venture - much like Freeview or Freesat - with commercial partners, and ITV, Five and BT have already committed their support. The 成人论坛's involvement in this venture is subject to 成人论坛 Trust approval and we expect their emerging conclusions in the Autumn.
Nor is it a "成人论坛 standard" that the venture would adopt. A standard for connected TVs is being developed now with the Digital Television Group - this was always our intention and work has already begun. Our ambition is that the Canvas platform would be compliant with that standard.
The partners would welcome the support of any ISP (i.e. including Sky), who could help us reach these aims, by offering the platform to their subscribers or as a venture partner, provided their ambitions for a free-to-air platform and open competition match ours.
And subscription-free doesn't mean all the content has to be free. Like the internet, the Canvas platform would support a range of monetisation options - from advanced targeted advertising, micropayments or straightforward subscription. And as an open platform, the rules of access would be the same for any video on demand service, be it Lovefilm, ITV player, the 成人论坛 iPlayer or Blinkbox. Sky could increase the reach of its video-on-demand service Sky Player through the Canvas platform.
Canvas is in addition to, not instead of the syndication ambitions of all of the existing partners. Making content widely available is fundamental to the economics of free to air content providers and Canvas adds to the range of options available. As a platform, it is intended to reduce the barriers to accessing the television set that some content providers already experience.
Public service or not, we can all contribute to supporting a Digital Britain: be it in increasing the availability of online services such as NHS Direct, helping to drive broadband uptake by delivering service innovation or by investing to ensure that our subscription free TV platforms continue to evolve. The 成人论坛 thinks that Canvas is central to delivering these aims and is keen to work with partners who believe the same.
Richard Halton is the Director of Project Canvas.
Comment number 1.
At 12th Oct 2009, Mo McRoberts wrote:Despite all of this, it鈥檚 not actually clear why, in contrast to most other 鈥渙pen standards鈥 which exist, a joint venture is necessary at all:
鈥⑻齣t鈥檚 not for regulation, as Ofcom and the ASA are perfectly capable of doing that (especially with the impending implementation of the EU regulations on IP-delivered video)
鈥 it鈥檚 not simply to ensure that the specs are followed, as this can be achieved through a straightforward brand/licensing regime (and isn鈥檛 necessary for other standards, such as the myriad existing specifications which Canvas will no doubt incorporate)
鈥 it can鈥檛 be to ensure a level playing-field, as again, the specifications can be suitably agnostic with respect to this (with the licensing regime ensuring it)
So what -is- it for? My reading of the proposals suggests that it鈥檚 about control (e.g., the mandated UX, the EPG, ensuring鈥攂y nature鈥攖hat existing broadcasters have top billing). By doing this, it becomes quite a costly exercise, and so requires a financial commitment from would-be partners in order to pay for itself, yet all of this could easily be avoided, rather than being an example of self-justification.
I have, for what it鈥檚 worth, rather a keen interest in this both personally (as a license-fee payer), and professionally, and I can鈥檛 help but think the 成人论坛鈥檚 approach to Canvas is essentially flawed鈥攁nd the documents released by the Executive and published by the Trust have done little to allay this.
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Comment number 2.
At 12th Oct 2009, KernowChris wrote:#1 We need a firm platform for IPTV; Canvas provides this in an understandable and straightforward manner. Without it the service will simply not happen in a functional unit. Other broadcasters can join AS CAN non broadcasters which adds to the delight of the service. Those that object must have ulterior motives. A multiplicity of platforms will cost the potential viewer greatly in outdated hardware and software to receive them.
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Comment number 3.
At 12th Oct 2009, Colin wrote:The 成人论坛 doesn't have a good track record on creating "open" platforms.
The iPlayer streams were wrapped up with Adobe's obscure RTMP protocol, making it difficult to access the AAC streams on wi-fi radios etc.
The bandwidth consuming hidden P2P system installed by Kangaroo is still remembered.
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Comment number 4.
At 12th Oct 2009, Mo McRoberts wrote:@ChrisCornwall:
None of that actually answers the questions, but thanks for the speedy response.
Canvas specifically _doesn鈥檛_ provide that in understandable and straightforward manner, unless you鈥檝e been reading consultation documents which have yet to be made public.
The notion that a (very costly) business unit must be created in order to act as gatekeeper to the content is laughable. The point of open standards is that manufacturer A and content provider B can talk -without- requiring the middle-man.
鈥淥ther broadcasters can join AS CAN non broadcasters which adds to the delight of the service.鈥
How can you possibly quantify the 鈥渄elight鈥 of a service which hasn鈥檛 even been approved yet?
鈥淭hose that object must have ulterior motives鈥
Must they? Can you elaborate?
鈥淎 multiplicity of platforms will cost the potential viewer greatly in outdated hardware and software to receive them. 鈥
First, this depends rather on your definition of 鈥減latform鈥. Is the web 鈥渁 platform鈥 or many? What if you simplify it: are 鈥淗TTP downloads of H.264/AAC-LC content within an ISO/IEC 13818-1 container鈥 a platform, or many?
Second, not if the standard鈥檚 specified sanely, which given the amount of money involved and number of partners with an interest in seeing this happen should be the case. Even moreso if stringent compliance requirements are attached to brand licensing.
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Comment number 5.
At 12th Oct 2009, Mo McRoberts wrote:Readers of this post may be interested in Sky鈥檚 full response, which can be found at:
(PDF)
For the record, I鈥檓 no great fan of Sky by _any_ means, but they do echo my concerns in a number of areas.
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Comment number 6.
At 12th Oct 2009, Nick Reynolds wrote:navali - you can use html to put links in your comments. Less clunky than pasting the whole link.
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Comment number 7.
At 12th Oct 2009, Mo McRoberts wrote:Nick鈥攎any thanks. It might be worth asking the powers that be to mention that somewhere near the comment box, so that people know :)
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Comment number 8.
At 13th Oct 2009, ten gear bat bike wrote:You're being very level headed about this, as the 成人论坛 should, especially given that said sattelite broadcaster would probably take great joy in dismantling the 成人论坛 for commercial gain!
Keep up the good work.
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Comment number 9.
At 13th Oct 2009, Mo McRoberts wrote:@tengearbatbike:
You鈥檙e not wrong about Sky, although they make some very good points.
The key difference between the 成人论坛 and Sky is:
鈥 given the chance, Sky would likely decimate the broadcast industry (with the public 鈥渃ollateral damage鈥). fortunately, it鈥檚 in no position to do it!
鈥 the 成人论坛, on the other hand, is in a position where it could, but generally as no interest in it.
occasionally, the 成人论坛 heads in the wrong direction with something (which is, of course, subjective). the intense scrutiny the 成人论坛 is put under鈥攖he difficult questions, and the need to justify new initiatives, and so on鈥攁re there to make sure the 成人论坛 doesn鈥檛 do what Sky would given half a chance.
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Comment number 10.
At 14th Oct 2009, ten gear bat bike wrote:@nevali
I would never accuse Auntie of being perfect, but I think that's part of it's charm! Good points though!
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Comment number 11.
At 14th Oct 2009, lotteryblog wrote:Its actually worth reading. Of course Sky wants us to keep paying through the nose! Those fat cat CEOs don鈥檛 want to have to take a pay cut. I鈥檓 all for free internet TV.
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Comment number 12.
At 14th Oct 2009, HD wrote:Seeing as the 成人论坛 are creating/specifying a video playback/distribution format, why can't they also create/specify one that is loads better than Blu-ray (in capabilities eg. higher resolutions eg. 4K, 1080p50, higher colour depths, bitrates, 3D & much more stuff - one that could accept discs/memory sticks etc. as well as via downloads/streaming), but since the 成人论坛 could create/specify everything, the licensing costs would be practically zero (ie. loads less than Blu-ray)?
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Comment number 13.
At 14th Oct 2009, Mo McRoberts wrote:@HD1080:
many of the expensive parts of Blu-Ray are fairly applicable to Canvas (and DVB, for that matter): if you ignore the physical disc parts, what you鈥檙e left with is a filesystem, containing files which make up an MPEG transport stream (amongst other things). The transport stream is almost identical to that carried by DVB-T2 HD services, except there鈥檚 a 32-bit timecode prepended to each 188-byte TS packet. Of course, DVB services carry EPG information and such, while Blu-Ray discs have other assorted stuff, but much of it鈥檚 very very similar (and covered by the same patent licenses handled by the MPEG-LA).
It鈥檚 also worth noting that the 成人论坛鈥檚 Dirac Pro CODEC is going through the process of being standardised by SMTPE as 鈥淰C-2鈥 (i.e., a successor/competitor to VC-1, which is based upon Windows Media Video 9, and is a standard part of all current Blu-Ray players, as well as the Xbox 360).
That said, getting this up and running in the near-term requires playing nicely with existing stuff, including bandwidth constraints which tightly limit how much high-def material can be stuffed down the public Internet without the use of multicast. Much of Canvas augments existing Freeview (and forthcoming Freeview HD) broadcasts, so the standards used there will likely be the benchmark for the first iteration of supporting devices and content.
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Comment number 14.
At 14th Oct 2009, HD wrote:Thanks nevali. One of the reasons I wanted/suggested that the 成人论坛 create/specify a video playback/distribution format even better than Blu-ray was so that they wouldn't be limited by current internet bandwidth restrictions (though it could still allow downloads/streaming, it could also use discs/memory sticks etc.). eg. they should easily be able to allow higher bitrates than BD by just spinning the discs faster or something like that. And releasing content on that of format should be really cheap (they wouldn't need to pay any AACS license fees or anything like that if it was their own format).
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Comment number 15.
At 20th Oct 2009, psheld wrote:In the hope of clarifying some of the points raised in the comments here, an "open platform" is not "open source". Through their provision of APIs (application programmable interfaces), both Facebook and the iPhone for example may be considered open platforms, yet both are proprietary, neither is open source, and the respective companies exert complete control over the ecosystem.
Having witnessed first hand the slog of beating back Microsoft from holding a near monopoly position in Web browsers, during which time they felt no compulsion to adhere to Web standards, I see no reason at all why the next IPTV platform should be proprietary and under the control of the few. Have we learned nothing in recent years?
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