Discuss our English quiz
Of all the subjects in the school curriculum, English literature is perhaps the hardest to test.
Why? Because answers are frequently up for discussion. While doing today's may instantly transport you back to a stuffy school hall on a sunny June afternoon, one key difference is there's no room in our online quiz to discuss and elaborate on your answers... until you landed on this page.
Use the comment box at the bottom of this post to discuss the answers to our quiz - it could mean the difference between an A and an A*.
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At 24th Jun 2009, chester_copperpott wrote:2 stunning guesses gave me...2 out of 7. Shameful.
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At 24th Jun 2009, nicster83 wrote:not very GCSE-like questions. After studying particularl literature in great depth for 2 years, a GCSE student would be asked to analyse the use of language and such. If you've not read the literature in question, let alone studied it, then you're not going to get the answers to those questions correct. So there. I have justfied my also pitiful 2 out of 7!
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At 24th Jun 2009, LucretiaUK wrote:I got an A grade O level in English Lit! These were not the books I studied :)
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At 24th Jun 2009, Imperfectly37 wrote:I've not read any of these either, but 'sensible' guesses got me 4 out of 7. Does that mean my education wasn't wasted?
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At 24th Jun 2009, Jake Hadlee wrote:Excellent - 2 points. I shall immediately return my 1st class degree in English Literature and start again with Janet and John.
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At 24th Jun 2009, kathrn wrote:6 out of 7, I think that makes me a good guesser!
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At 24th Jun 2009, Kay wrote:I got 6 out of 7 (I really am a bookworm). I though the question on Tennyson was unfair - the verbs may have indicated the fright of the soldiers, but they could also by their rhythm have suggested the noise of the charge.
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At 24th Jun 2009, Caroline wrote:As far as I can see, most of the questions are merely 'Do you remember this bit of the book or play'? No discussion required you either get it right, or wrong.
The Light Brigade question is an exception, but unfortunately I haven't read it.
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At 24th Jun 2009, plumserve wrote:Having scored 1/7 I have to say that the questions are specific to the curriculum and I would not expect too many people to have such in-depth knowledge of random pieces of Lit.
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At 24th Jun 2009, sten_super wrote:Unless the English Lit GCSE has changed significantly since I did it 9 years ago, they were nothing like GCSE questions. Those questions were simply finding out whether you had read the book in question (most of which I hadn't), rather than testing your ability to analyse the work.
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At 24th Jun 2009, Candace9839 wrote:6/7. The last question could be the sound of battle. Tennyson is conveying the movement and sound of the charge.
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At 24th Jun 2009, rogermor wrote:I got 5 out of 7. My impression is that you could answer most of them if you had seen the film. C'est magnifique, mais ce n'est pas rigoureux.
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At 24th Jun 2009, AndrewJSavage wrote:5 and ive just finished my gcse =)
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At 24th Jun 2009, Judie wrote:7 of 7 for me, a former English major. Surely I would have to hang my head at anything less. Having said that, some of the questions are open to more than one answer and a clever justification in the essay would, I think, win the points.
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At 24th Jun 2009, Alistair B wrote:6 out of 7. I agree with the comments about the Charge of the Light Brigade. It certainly made me think of the 'sound and fury' of a charge. Though I did also have a vision of Errol Flyn in there somewhere too so also anyone who has seen a film can get these right too. I have never read Much Ado or any Jane Eyre - movies rule apparently.
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At 24th Jun 2009, iceravenlady wrote:I am sorry but I take exception with the Charge of the Light Brigade question. It is onoematoepoeic and alliterative and the terms 'volley' and 'thunder' expresses danger, yes, but that it obvious. The figure of speech was what was asked for and the horrific sound is therefore, in my view, correct.
If you'd ever been in a battle you'd know. It's very hot, too.
But this just shows there are no right answers - except where a question of fact is at issue - and that's what literature is for - not to make you intellectual and snooty but practically, to ensure you learn to make choices and defend them. That's why we teach it still. The same as teaching art to make people paint what they see, not what they think they see.
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At 24th Jun 2009, MoliereRedux wrote:I agree with KayFilex. I also got 6/7, but the Tennyson question was open to wide interpretation.
Certainly when I wuz at Uni, you could choose your interpretation as long as you could cogently justify your choice.
Poor ajudicating.
MoliereRedux
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At 24th Jun 2009, Natsum wrote:6 out of 7 - Not bad for someone who did English Literature GCSE over 25 years ago.....
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At 24th Jun 2009, Super-Becky-Lol wrote:3 out of 7 but a GCSE you choose a selection by your teacher to learn and not all of the questions are accurate. In English Lit. we have to learn 50 poem and their techniques and write an essay and got to write an essay of a novel in my case "Of Mice and Men" (I did get that question correct). Please bear in mind it not just multiple choice questions.
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At 24th Jun 2009, sal3monkeys wrote:6/7..mmm not bad! Poorly paid NHS worker playing hooky on day off when should really be building dog-run! CoLB question got wrong as looking for deeper meaning to discuss! :-D
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At 24th Jun 2009, SheffTim wrote:6 out of 7, mainly through guesswork, though I read Macbeth at school for O level Eng Lit. I've seen Romeo and Juliet and that question I got wrong.
The only one of the books I've actually read is Of Mice and Men, and that long time ago. Otherwise intuition (or unconscious memory) based on what I know of each work from film adaptations, or their reputation.
With the Jane Eyre question I guessed what a Bronte heroine would be like, and therefore what she wouldn't have done. With the Charge of the Light Brigade the answer came from a gut feeling, having read military accounts of that campaign. I know what a malapropism is, which clearly is an advantage with another question.
I have to admit, I'm not absolutely sure what is being tested here.
Still (thankfully) at least Chaucer no longer appears to be on the syllabus. I also hope schools no longer spend months reading one book out-loud in class; if anything kills a passion for reading it's that.
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At 24th Jun 2009, Profcynic wrote:KayFilex wrote:
I got 6 out of 7 (I really am a bookworm). I though the question on Tennyson was unfair - the verbs may have indicated the fright of the soldiers, but they could also by their rhythm have suggested the noise of the charge.
I agree. That was the same one I goofed on. To be honest, I don't think I read any of the texts in the quiz. We had Hardy (Far from the Madding Crowd), 12th Night, and Stephen Spender at school, and my own choice of reading now is George Orwell (still amazingly relevant) and Omar Khayyam, plus history rather than literature.
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At 24th Jun 2009, sal3monkeys wrote:Why are you moaning about not having studied any as set texts? If you loved literature you should be familiar with them all!
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At 24th Jun 2009, maddy67 wrote:6 out of 7 "must read more" it is a shame the exam boards are not as demanding. I have not read the Charge of the light brigade one so guessed wrong. GCSE questions will soon be asking wot duz Jenny meen by her text to Johnny. I remember the gist of the text mentioned from over 25 years ago. I do not think that children today will be able to do so in 25 years time. most of them have trouble remembering the last thing you said to them.
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At 24th Jun 2009, wakeuptotheweekend wrote:Whilst a GCSE student may have read one or more of the texts upon which the test is based, it would be unusually rare to find a student who has read all of them. A successful student would not be required to know half as many texts. In the context of this particular test and in proportion to the knowledge required at Key Stage Four, I would suggest that two or three correct answers are sufficient to mirror the highest grades at GCSE. In fact, seeing as GCSE exams demand a number of essays from candidates and not answers to multiple choice questions I would question whether much weight can be attached to a result in this test. Without wishing to blow my own trumpet or, indeed, excuse a poor performance, I scored a grand total of two and I have an A* in Literature at GCSE and am yet to drop a mark in an A-level literature exam.
I wouldn't read very much into your score unless you got them all right.
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At 24th Jun 2009, McLaren MP4-4 wrote:6 for me. I ahve never studied GCSE, so just goes to shoe what the uneducated can do. OR do Scottish Highers count?
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At 24th Jun 2009, notanothermembername wrote:Studying literature is not about knowing the facts of a story or play. I am dismayed if this is the kind of information that is being examined.
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At 24th Jun 2009, Lilvixen wrote:I agree with most of the comments here - the study of English Literature is not just about knowing the book's finer details but by knowing what those details mean in context. The joy of studying arts and humanities like English or History is that there is no 'right' answer.
I'm just diappointed at my 3 out of 7 :)
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At 24th Jun 2009, pandatank wrote:6 out of 7, but I also think Tennyson's Charge of the Light Brigade question has more than one "correct answer" in the choices. "Storm'd and thundered" suggests both noise and danger and is an interpretation. Question 6 is actually an English Language question rather than a Literature question. Juliet is compared to sun, moon and stars, it would have been less of a trick question if it had said "AND juliet is the ...." I did School Certificate back in 1976 and HSC in 1977 & 1978 but these questions don't test for that.
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At 24th Jun 2009, redrogie wrote:Yes I got 7 out of 7 and yes I did study English Lit at GCSE and A-Level.
However a few of the texts I have not studied but basic common sence is all that was needed.
I would love to do my GCSE's now if this is the standard.
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At 24th Jun 2009, the_claque wrote:5/7! I guessed two of the right answers, just by following the way the question pointed me so in a way the candidates are being steered towards the right answer, and the questions are not a true test of the person's knowledge.
Also, in the last question, how do we know that Tennyson meant the 'violent' verbs to suggest fright, he might have thought he was using them to suggest the noise of battle for all we know, they certainly put the noise and turmolt of battle into my mind.
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At 24th Jun 2009, irwin_winterchest wrote:6. I disown this quiz and everything it stands for. Stupid subjective Poetry question.
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At 24th Jun 2009, Medieval-Evil wrote:I sat GCSE English Literature six years ago and achieved an A*.
Have to concur with the other views here though that this test isn't a very good representation of what goes in to a GCSE English paper (be it Lit. or Lang.), both of which consist mainly of extended answers not suited to the magazine quiz format. Also, where was the poetry???
My score - 5/7, not too bad considering that I only studied two of those texts.
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At 24th Jun 2009, allabouttowler wrote:Hehe, I've got an MA in English, but as many of the people above have said I fell down either on texts I hadn't studied or the vague Tennyson interpretation where, lets face it, the semantic field (GCSE terminology!) from which Tennyson draws his vocabulary was most likely employed to highlight all of the suggested emotions in the answers - the quizmaster's insistence it was soldiers anger is far too narrow an interpretation, unless he has evidence from Tennysson to prove otherwise!
Anyhoo, at 4/7 I was very accurately informed I should read more, which is frankly true of everybody in the world!
Enjoyed the quiz, but as the intro to this comments string very correctly states English Lit is something that cannot be properly tested via multiple guess - it's rather a topic which lends itself excellently to anybody with a glimmer of imagination and the desire to express themselves at great lengths on subjects only of interest to other people within the field!
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At 24th Jun 2009, Medieval-Evil wrote:Hmmm. Reading some of the comments on here I'm starting to feel that this was a pretty big blunder from the ³ÉÈËÂÛ̳ - reinforcing the view that exams are getting easier by completely misrepresenting what they consist of.
I would like to stress that students are required to use much more of their own interpretation and would not be given such leading questions in a true exam - neither would they be able to select answers through multiple choice. English papers as a whole require a lot of independent thinking from students to achieve the higher grades.
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At 24th Jun 2009, nriddle wrote:I very much agree with CarolineMB and disagree with the quiz answer: while the verbs may indeed reinforce the sense of danger through their meaning, their sound is also vital here: both "volleyed" and "thunder'd" are to some extent onomatopoeic, and the alliteration of "storm'd", "shot" and "shell" is obviously deliberate and surely(!) intended to convey the sound of dangerous objects whistling by the ear. The given answer is surely also true - the verbs increase the sense of danger, but their sounds also evoke the noise of battle. Both answers are part of the right response.
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At 24th Jun 2009, sal3monkeys wrote:So far a majority verdict that the Charge of the Light Brigade question is far too difficult for todays GCSE student....throw it to degree students for a 25% pass!
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At 24th Jun 2009, bizarreAllegra wrote:I'm a bit surprised, as a Cambridge graduate in Modern Languages (i.e. large literature component), to score 4/7 and be told to read more. The test strikes me as being more like Trivial Pursuit than a test of the ability to read and appreciate literature. And, incidentally, how does the tester know what effect Tennyson was hoping to achieve in The Charge of the Light Brigade? The answer given is totally subjective. Kind regards.
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At 24th Jun 2009, Paul in Crawley wrote:As a mere student of Electrical Engineering, I am quite pleased with my 7/7. Except I am sure there's far more to real Eng Lit than this little quiz.
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At 24th Jun 2009, DuTempete wrote:On the one hand, I feel I should be ashamed for only getting 2 of 7, as I'm an English major, and I've read every one of those bits of literature. On the other hand, it has been at least 10 years since I last read each of those other than Jane Eyre, and I'm horrid with names and facts.
All the same, I'm a little offended we're leading our children to believe this sort of thing is necessary. Can anyone tell me which literature profession requires us to memorise minute facts? That sort of thing takes time away from what's really important: how the facts are used to tell the story and influence the reader. The Of Mice and Men question was good (though I got it wrong; I HATE that book!), as were the questions about Much Ado and Lord Tennyson's poem. Neither require one to have read the literature, but to understand /concepts/ one can learn from it, or from anywhere else.
I agree with most of you when I say I am offended at the "correct" answer for the last question. Thunder is a noun describing a sound, thus "Thunder'd" describes the occurrence of that sound. I should think everyone's first reaction is to say the series of verbs describe the sound. This is an example of the poetic principle that the poet should always draw on the five senses whenever possible... sound being on of them. Danger is more of an emotive thing, and is thus more vague, being experienced different from each individual. Emotions result /from/ the senses. If Tennyson had been trying only for the perceived danger, I would have considered him misguided. Now, placing myself in the tutor's shoes, I would have accepted both the danger and the sound as acceptable answers.
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At 24th Jun 2009, sleepygeek wrote:Is it true that GCSE English Lit requires the study of all these texts? When I did O level English Lit, I remember studying only 2 texts for the exam (Macbeth and Chaucer's Prologue).
(But the teacher did write on my report that I was the worst pupil he had ever taught!)
4/7 by chance.
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At 24th Jun 2009, Jon Cooper wrote:My children, currently teens at school, could answer none of these questions
I, a product of much experiamental teaching etc in the 70s scored 4/7
My mum, a product of a classical education not seen for a very long while, easily scored 7/7
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At 24th Jun 2009, Mozziecat wrote:I'm a 6 as well. I gave the "wrong" answer for the Tennyson, but I think the official answer is wrong. I haven't read Jane Eyre since I was a child (50 years ago) and I have never read Of Mice and Men. I am certainly a bookworm, as anyone who knows me would certify, and I doubt if those questions are typical GCSE standard or content.
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At 24th Jun 2009, DorsetBlogger wrote:5/7 eh? Not bad I suppose but then I have never read any of the books or poems here. Just shows what one achieve with a combination of logic and luck.
Bit worrying if GCSE's were really this easy.
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At 24th Jun 2009, arathrael wrote:Poor test this one, basically coming down to "have you read these particular books?" Well, no, I haven't for the most part. As I recall, Lord of the Flies, The Merchant of Venice, and the poetry of Wilfred Owen were the texts used when I studied GCSE English Literature.
It would have made more sense to have had questions on a choice of texts, rather than an arbitrary selection of texts that even current GCSE English Literature students may not have read (depending on their particular exam board and syllabus), but I appreciate the quiz system may not allow that.
Having said that, the last question, on Tennyson's Charge of the Light Brigade, which didn't rely on having read the poem (with the particular text included in the question) wasn't a great question either as others have stated, with more than one answer being arguably correct.
Pretty poor show all round I'm afraid!
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At 24th Jun 2009, Cassandra wrote:It looks like they still rely on the same tired old collection of standard classic and 'important' modern authors they did when I was at school 40 years ago. You'd think they could have introduced some variety in both: Oliver Goldsmith, Bernard Shaw, and Raymond Chandler for example.
And what's wrong with studying literature that people might actually have gone out and bought themselves? Stephanie Meyer's Twilight trilogy is as sensitive, subtle, and well-written as any fiction I've read and (as usual) much better than the film (unlike J.K.Rowling's).
The appalling thing is that the entire literary education of so many people is determined by the tyranny of the 'set text' for exams. Better not to test literature at all, I think.
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At 24th Jun 2009, Ralphie_65 wrote:5/7 - Not bad. Agre with the comments about the Tennyson question. More of a discussion question than a right or wro
Only knew the Romeo and Juliet one because I remember Frank Bruno doing that quote in some TV show...does that count?
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At 24th Jun 2009, IbanezDemon wrote:I agree with the other comments. I got a 'B' at O Level English Lit (mind you, that was in 1982), and read Orwell's "1984" and Shakespeare's "Twelfth Night". The GCSE quiz is pretty irrelevant if the questions are not about literature we've read!
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At 24th Jun 2009, Medieval-Evil wrote:I really think someone at the ³ÉÈËÂÛ̳ has messed up here. This is not even remotely related to "GCSE English Literature", but is instead a trivia quiz. I realise this is the Magazine section, but surely this is highly misleading?
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At 24th Jun 2009, MikeEmra wrote:.. This test is a bit of a scam really; seeing as no one pupil would've studied all these texts..
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At 24th Jun 2009, Jayrleo wrote:If only students' work could be marked by clicking on a screen and them receiving their score accompanied by some pithy summative comment! To think of the hours I've wasted marking pages and pages and pages and pages...(fade to black)
Plus, as an English teacher of many years I'd like to suggest that what happens above bears no resemblence to a GCSE at all...it isn't easy enough.
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At 24th Jun 2009, MikeEmra wrote:IbanezDemon and Medieval-Evil: Isn't the point of the GCSE quizzes to be a taste of what's on today's GCSE syllabus. Poetry, Prose and a play; indeed the ones /on/ the syllabus, so why is it irrelevant and misleading?
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At 24th Jun 2009, SomethingWonderful wrote:4/7 and haven't read any of the books, nor seen the films. And I got an A in Eng Lit in 1982, but couldn't tell you either of the books we read... although one was a "Richard" I think.
Agree with the Tennyson comments, certainly down to interpretation.
Oh how I wish I could retake my 'O's and 'A's now.....
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At 24th Jun 2009, jordan1224 wrote:I can't believe, reading some comments here, that people actually believe this quiz represents the true standard of a GCSE English Literature exam.
I appreciate that the quiz was mainly designed for a simple, internet-friendly test but the ³ÉÈËÂÛ̳ need to make clear that this does not represent the style, nor difficulty, of a GCSE exam.
It is completely false to say these are typical GCSE questions, and just adds fuel to the fire of the "exams are getting easier" debate when there are clearly people gullible enough to actually believe that this is the current standard of GCSE.
If you really want to see a modern GCSE exam paper, then visit the exam board websites where you can download freely accesible past papers from recent years.
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At 24th Jun 2009, Hailsbells wrote:6/7, fluke!! :)
I loved Of Mice and Men at school.
GCSE years we studied Of Mice of Men, An Inspctor Calls, Romeo & Juliet and Macbeth.
Really nice blast from the past but I agree that it is not at all reflective of GCSE exams. Good fun though, thanks!
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At 24th Jun 2009, Curiosikat wrote:5/7 and never read any of the literature discussed. I do actually have a degree in English though - somehow I escaped without indulging in many of the classics...
Totally agree with some people's comments on the last question - the answer is subjective, it could be to express any one of those things, how do we know exactly what Tennyson wanted to get across?
Nevertheless, I'm sure GCSE questions are more involved than these and require the writing of an essay, not just selecting a multiple choice answer... surely?
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At 24th Jun 2009, nationalsocialist wrote:I agree with jordan1224.
There is no 'guessing' in Eng Lit exams. In fact, it's not even multiple choice.
And for the record, the last question could have been sound. The repeated use of the 'd' sound in the verbs is clearly meant to portray the sound of gunfire.
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At 24th Jun 2009, Woundedpride wrote:Only fell down on the Tennyson (and the official answer is open to debate in my opinion anyway!) - but why not link to past GCSE English papers? Then we could all see the context in which such questions are given.
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At 24th Jun 2009, Rebecca Hillary wrote:@ sal3monkeys
"Why are you moaning about not having studied any as set texts? If you loved literature you should be familiar with them all!"
I have to disagree with you on that. Just because I have The Complete Works Of William Shakespeare, it doesn't mean that I've read everything in it. I read more than almost everyone I know, but I read a broad range of genres, not just the classics. I enjoy the classics, don't get me wrong, but I also red YA, horror, thriller, crime, fantasy, chick lit, historical fiction... the list goes on.
As far as Shakespeare goes, I'm currently building up a collection of films on DVD so that my kids have an early introduction. My four year old loves Romeo and Juliet already. But then again, I also like watching James Bond, Harry Potter, Twilight, the Bourne films, anything with Al Pacino... oh wait, he was in The Merchant Of Venice.
My point is that if you were answering questions on these texts in an exam, then you'd have read the texts. I studied none of these texts at GCSE, and I got 6/7. As it stands, this is just a not-quite-so-general knowledge quiz. If you know the subject matter, you'll get the answers right (probably - pesky Tennyson question!), if you don't know them , then you at least have a chance of getting the answer right by guessing.
I'm not fussed at whether I got a few questions right or wrong, and I don't care about my result in my GCSE. No piece of paper, nor a number on a screen, can tell you if you can read or not. It's all subjective when it comes right down to it.
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At 24th Jun 2009, Athene_noctua wrote:6/7 after having studied only three of the texts.
The Tennyson question was my downfall, as it was one of those questions where, no matter what the poet intended, if you support your answer well enough it can't be wrong.
Besides, GCSE students won't have studied these exact texts.
It bears no resemblance whatsoever to a real exam, but perhaps the magazine monitor should become the new examining board???
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At 24th Jun 2009, RhoJack wrote:7/7 - Hadn't studied many of the texts and those I did I studied many years ago. However, I had enough knowledge of them and their subject matters through films/mentions in media/general references made, I could work out the answers I didn't know by what I knew of the text's subject. I feel the Tennyson answer was the correct one taking into account the subject matter of the poem as well as the language used. I do agree that the point of English Lit exams is the ability to discuss why you have come to a particular answer and back up your decision.
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At 24th Jun 2009, linewall wrote:I got 4 and every one of them was a pure guess as not read any of these.
But what does this all mean?
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At 24th Jun 2009, John wrote:A paltry 2/7 for me.
jakehadlee wrote "I shall immediately return my 1st class degree in English Literature and start again with Janet and John."
At junior school, I loved reading and couldn't wait to read the next Janet & John book.
Unfortunately, I was frequently told that I couldn't have read the book in that amount of time and was sent back to read it again.
I read most of the Janet & John books twice!
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At 24th Jun 2009, sleepygeek wrote:We oldies are all incensed after getting 7/7 on the previous tests. Pleas set tests we can answer easily so we can carry on being grumpy and superior about modern "education".
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At 24th Jun 2009, Nicholas wrote:too many "girlie" books! Somewhat surprised to have got 6...
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At 24th Jun 2009, CathEW wrote:I scored 6/7; I have never read Hamlet, so I got that one wrong. There again, the only ones which I HAD read was Jane Eyre and Romeo & Juliet - though I didn't enjoy the latter and it must be 31 years ago in any case!
I am familiar with The Charge of the Light Brigade, so had an educated guess at the answer. I guessed at the other questions too. The only one which I actually knew the correct answer was Jane Eyre. I have read this for pleasure, not just at school.
If it's possible to score over 85% largely by guesswork, what does that really say about GCSEs?
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At 24th Jun 2009, beckyberridge wrote:As a qualified English teacher (though haven't worked for 4 years - baby brain!) I scored 6 out of 7. In common with quite a few others, I fell down on the Tennyson question. I agree it was a bit unfair - an arguement could have been made for any of those three options. At least it wasn't a complete disaster!
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At 24th Jun 2009, talarata wrote:Seeing as I did English Lit GCSE last year I can tell you, in case any one was wondering, that the actual question aren't actually like this. As this is a multiple choice quiz I wouldn't expect them to be like the real questions as they require you explain and discuss certain aspects of the works we read.
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At 24th Jun 2009, SheffTim wrote:Re Tennyson's "Volleyed and thunder'd; Storm'd at with shot and shell."
All battles are noisy, and there were many in the Crimean war.
The Charge of the Light Brigade stood out in its day (and remains controversial) because it seemed the cavalry were sent to almost certain death, certainly they charged the wrong target. They were unbelievably heroic and recklessly brave, but their command was inept and riven by feuds. Of the approx 660 cavalry nearly half were killed or wounded and many others were captured. It was seen by the press of the day as a disaster.
Tennyson did not witness the charge but wrote his poem after reading an account in the Times newspaper. It famously contains the lines: "Theirs not to reason why, Theirs but to do and die:"
It was the violence they faced and the number of casualties they took that Tennyson wanted to convey. It's worth looking up the full poem.
"Cannon to right of them,
Cannon to left of them,
Cannon in front of them
Volley'd and thunder'd;
Storm'd at with shot and shell,
Boldly they rode and well,
Into the jaws of Death,
Into the mouth of Hell
Rode the six hundred."
This may be a case where knowing the context helps provide the correct answer.
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At 24th Jun 2009, Ecocritic wrote:This test entirely misrepresents English as an academic subject. Five of the questions merely test whether one has read the book and can remember particular, arbitrarily chosen details of it. The other two, the questions on Steinbeck and Tennyson, ask us to choose from sets of alternatives that are not really alternatives (they could all be true) and are in any case questions of opinion.
English Literature is the discipline of literary criticism - expressing, extending and justifying your opinions of books, and engaging critically with intellectual challenges to those opinions. The test gives no opportunity for this at all.
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At 24th Jun 2009, jenbrownnz wrote:I agree with many other views posted here. English is not like science or maths where you can box questions neatly into a multiple choice format. GCSE students would, typically, be required to study a few texts, including prose, poetry and drama, in much greater detail than is suggested by this quiz! Of course they need to know the text but then they must go beyond the surface and examine the writer's language, style and presentation of ideas. They also need to know how to write an essay which enables them to elaborate their ideas and provide evidence from the text.
Why do people insist exams are getting easier when more students pass? Why not, dare I say, suggest pupils are getting smarter and now know how to write essays which are focused, well-structured, and well-supported with evidence from the text. This is something to be celebrated, surely.
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At 24th Jun 2009, chookgate wrote:4/7 a pass! Almost as much as I got for my O level English Lit - I didn't read those books either! I love reading but there was something about my set books and plays that I just couldn't make myself read them. Still managed a C though.
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At 25th Jun 2009, Dougie wrote:My O-level Eng Lit, IIRC, consisted of one Shakespeare play and one novel. This one covered too many subjects. Although I'll gloat about getting 6 out of 7 right.
I still can't stand anything by Tolkein after being force fed The Hobbit in third year seniors (what they call year nine now).
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At 25th Jun 2009, FrozenStorms wrote:I got a 7/7 and I live in the United States. All of the readings in the quiz were required for me in high school, with the exception of the Tennyson poem. I'm not sure why people had problems with the latter, as it mentions "shot and shell" and "volleyed," all of which imply imminent danger to their lives.
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At 25th Jun 2009, music2ologist wrote:To the bloggers who complained about the Charge of the Light Brigade question: the whole point of the poem is that 'someone had blundered'. The soldiers who rode into the valley of death had been sent into an impossible position by an incompetent general. It was a famous massacre. The poem is magnificent, and worth reading aloud, at any age.
I got seven out of seven for the test, but I expected to do that. I used to teach English literature.
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At 25th Jun 2009, excaliber01 wrote:I'm well old (over 40) and have never read any of these books but still managed to get 5/7. How i don't really know but it was an entertaining five minutes.
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At 25th Jun 2009, simon575 wrote:Music2ologist may have taught EngLit but he is wrong about the Charge of the Light Brigade. The question was clearly ambiguous and there is more than one answer.
I hope these are not actual exam questions - a little more depth please...
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At 25th Jun 2009, oldblogsville wrote:Very interesting; I managed six, guessing two, knowing four. I note that two Americans are included, writers of great humanitarian works that influenced the world, in the opinions of many. Both were made into world-famous films.
It would not surprise me to find that in the UK today, these are less likely to be known to younger generations, on the same scale as older folk. A personal reflection on the importance -or not - attached to such subjects now.
The media developments have at least as much to do with this, as those in education, IMHO.
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At 25th Jun 2009, portiad3 wrote:Being from California I'm not exactly sure what "GSCE" stands for, but I read 6 of the 7 items back in high school thirty years ago and got 6 of 7 on the quiz. Charge of the Light Brigade is the one we didn't study and is the one I missed. I agree with the others who preferred the "noise of war" answer and think either answer is defensible. Current high school students here still read most of these, as well as newer books. I think society will be poorer if students aren't exposed to a common background of classic English literature, so they will recognize many references to them that occur throughout life. Thanks for the quiz.
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At 25th Jun 2009, Paul_Goddard wrote:1/7
I wasn't too good at airy-fairy subjects although I did get a B at O' level.
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At 25th Jun 2009, crowdy wrote:I agree with Candace. I changed my mind about the Tennyson question because it could have been the sound of battle. So I got 5 instead of 6. A couple of those were guesses of course.
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At 25th Jun 2009, Stainlessstevie wrote:I am an old fart who passed English Lit over 40 years ago. Of all of the 7 pieces of literature featured, I had only read one - Macbeth. Yet I still scored 6/7 by intelligent guesswork. This makes me angry - the multiple choice questioning adopted by modern educators is not a true test, and I feel that my view is endorsed by the need to properly educate young people from the start of their entry into the workplace.
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At 25th Jun 2009, sophielyman wrote:4 out of 7 but I got an B on my English Lit GCSE last year. The only texts on the quiz I've read are Jane Eyre, Of Mice and Men, Much Ado About Nothing, and Romeo and Juliet. The others were just guesses.
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At 25th Jun 2009, GigglingSnuffle wrote:chuffed at my score - 5 out of 7 - not bad for one so aged!
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At 25th Jun 2009, pidgeGULL wrote:Is it right to say correct and especially "Wrong!" when asking questions about interpretive texts?
"In the text only the reader speaks" - Barthes.
2 out of 7 :P
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At 25th Jun 2009, Vlaadiimir wrote:Do you think that the questions posed in this inane quiz offer even the tiniest insight into the complexities of human experience, as distilled and expressed through the many talented writers, playwrights and poets we are lucky enough to know about?
Yes?
Wrong!
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At 25th Jun 2009, crowdy wrote:Clever response - and you're quite right, of course. But a better way of spending a few minutes of leisure than doing yet more sudoko, perhaps?
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At 25th Jun 2009, tyorkshirelass wrote:6/7 - got an A* in GCSE English Literature five years ago. *feels old and geeky* The one I got wrong was the Tennyson one.
I did Of Mice And Men at GCSE (I think), plus A View From The Bridge and some other stuff I can't remember. I read Jane Eyre and Macbeth when I was in Year Eight and have seen Romeo and Juliet so managed to vaguely remember them. The rest I just guessed really.
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At 25th Jun 2009, elwood_p_dowd wrote:6 out of 7. Happy with that but I would disagree with the final question. I think it does highlight the noise of the battle and literature does not have only one meaning. Apart from the reader concluding what he or she thinks of the text, it can also have a range of possible meanings.
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At 25th Jun 2009, originaldeppster wrote:I have read all of these books, some repeatedly! However, I scored one point! The questions are largely related to parrot like recall of a small particular element rather than the issues or full context of a book. The detail of the To Kill a Mockingbird question for example, ignores the importance of the statement - simply an inane checklist question. I feel justified in my one point!
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At 25th Jun 2009, elwood_p_dowd wrote:'This makes me angry - the multiple choice questioning adopted by modern educators is not a true test, and I feel that my view is endorsed by the need to properly educate young people from the start of their entry into the workplace.'
Multiple choice questioning is not a method of assessment used in English, so this 'test' is misleading. English Literature is always assessed through essay writing and speaking. It's a bit worrying when people draw their misguided conclusions about how people are educated from a daft quiz on the ³ÉÈËÂÛ̳ website.
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At 25th Jun 2009, superjohnalan wrote:6 from 7. Far better than my O level result!
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At 25th Jun 2009, sineadeywoo wrote:i managed to get 5/7 :) quite happy with that.
At GSCE i got a B in English (3 years ago) and it seems like i would have got a B in this little test.
i know it sounds a little silly, but this has made my morning haha
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At 25th Jun 2009, vickster2 wrote:5/7 - not bad for someone who left school 15 years ago and has only ever read one of those books. It seems good instincts are all you need to pass nowadays.
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At 25th Jun 2009, fisher85 wrote:5/7 not bad for someone who had actually never read any of those books or plays (even with an A level in enlgish lit !)
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At 25th Jun 2009, Jonathan Burrard wrote:I got 6 out of 7, and I would like to appeal. There isn't a single correct answer to question 7. Tennyson's verb choice does many things, including both emphasising the noise and highlighting the danger! (sorry, but I do have an English degree!)
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At 25th Jun 2009, Dominic69 wrote:I'm just finishing marking this year's GCSE English literature and it's a bit misleading to suggest these are 'questions of GCSE standard' that assess how people would 'fare in curriculum tests'. No student would face anything like this - they write essays. Also, only the final 3 questions start to deal with the level of understanding that would be expected of a C grade candidate, but since you're given options anyway it's not really a valid test. Not if you want to present it in the fashion that it has been.
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At 25th Jun 2009, marinetrashsparkle wrote:Wah!!!!! I just got 7/7!!!! Did my gcse's 30 years ago, regrettably have no time or patience to read books these days, and the only 2 I have read anyway were To Kill a Mocking Bird and R&J. I just answered the questions using gut instinct and human psychology.... Maybe I should start an Eng Lit post-grad course???? ;)
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At 25th Jun 2009, Dominic69 wrote:I notice people's comments about the unfairness of the Tennyson question. In fact it's quite right - one of the options notes that the device is used to emphasise the noise of battle, but that is created through the alliteration in the quoted section: "Storm'd at with shot and shell." The question, though, specifies the "violent verbs", which is a different aspect of the quotation. This focuses on the meaning rather than creating an aural effect and consequently generates an emotional significance, which is explained here as the danger faced by the soldiers. If you got it wrong you didn't read the question carefully enough!
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At 25th Jun 2009, CaptainRivers wrote:6 out of 7 - got the last one wrong (Tennyson) but that's because I really do think that he used those words to evoke the noise and confusion of battle, not the danger necessarily.
Ah well, I guess it goes to show that the interpretation of poetry at least, if not all literature, is subjective.
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