Friday 5 September 2008
Here's Kirsty with details of tonight's programme.
Do you remember the world before Google? It is ten years since Stanford university students Larry Page and Sergey Brin hit upon an idea which transformed the idea of how we access information. Now Google is one of the fastest growing companies in history. But is too much information in the hands of one company a good thing? And, given that it has faced criticism over its activities in China and its stance on privacy, can it ever truly live up to its informal corporate motto, "Don't be Evil." Tonight, as the company celebrates its first decade, we google Google.
US elections
The razzamataz of the US conventions is over. Away from the adoring, placard waving, badge displaying, hat wearing crowds in Denver and Minnesota our two regular Democratic and Republican party pundits will be casting forward to the next eight weeks of electioneering. Peter Marshall is back in Washington from Minnesota where he'll be assessing the McCain speech. Hours after he spoke, new jobless figures showed unemployment was at its highest in five years. Paul Mason will be looking at the US parties' plans for saving the American economy - the dynamo of the world.
Pakistan
The Pakistan government has said today that US raids have killed more civilians in the country's North West Frontier. Tomorrow, there is a presidential election, which Benazir Bhutto's widower Asif Ali Zardari is expected to win. We'll be assessing where that leaves the country's security and relations with the West.
And then on to Review at 11pm ....
Comment number 1.
At 5th Sep 2008, kevseywevsey wrote:I do hope Kirsty is wearing one of her colourful tops; i've just got a new 37 incher....a flat screen TV and need to calibrate the picture. I rarely pass remarks about other peoples dress-sense, but my wife piped up the other evening and mentioned in that typical cat-like-claw women way "that woman dresses like a peacock" i resonded with "no love, she's smart, cultured, intelligent and can carry it off, wearing brightly coloured tops...unlike yourself"...17 yrs of marriage gone in an instant. Ive recently learned how to use a microwave...oh what joy the ready-meal is!..zing.
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Comment number 2.
At 5th Sep 2008, barriesingleton wrote:AN INCOHERENT TRUTH
Cookieducker (#1) forgot to mention that Kirsty constantly lapses into Elvis-speak. He clearly understood what his wife said!!
Attention ³ÉÈËÂÛ̳ sound engineers: any chance of a voice -print of Kirsty at her worst, with a reference example, posted on Utube?
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Comment number 3.
At 5th Sep 2008, Spanner7337 wrote:Wow at last a night ³ÉÈËÂÛ̳ bias and smeer campaigns were replaced for once with some sense of civility, fairness and balance!
The ³ÉÈËÂÛ̳ Washington reporter still managed to get a fact wrong, that McCain didn't mention Bush at all. Check the beginning of McCains speech and admittedly brief mention of Bush keeping America safe after 9/11.
Tonights ³ÉÈËÂÛ̳ report remained 'on message' repeating Democratic attacks of the Republicans and repeated their messages but a grudging fairness is better than the last 4 days of total bias and 2 weeks of smeers from the Socialist Republic of the ³ÉÈËÂÛ̳.
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Comment number 4.
At 5th Sep 2008, barriesingleton wrote:GOOGLE SEARCH AND DESTROY
Is that the same Stanford as hosted Zimbardo's prison experiment? His book 'The Lucifer Effect' is subtitled: 'How Good people Turn Evil'. What is it about Stanford?
Did Buffy study there too?
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Comment number 5.
At 5th Sep 2008, barriesingleton wrote:This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the house rules. Explain.
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Comment number 6.
At 6th Sep 2008, kevseywevsey wrote:This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the house rules. Explain.
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Comment number 7.
At 6th Sep 2008, Steve_London wrote:USA Election and their Economy.
I watched last nights John McCain speech and he did refer to the economics situation in the states, in fact he mentioned opening up more markets for US trade.
Was this a hint at a EU and Nafta free trade zone if he is elected ?
Also he said Obama wanted to go down the isolationist trade route, is that true ?
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Comment number 8.
At 6th Sep 2008, Steve_London wrote:Google -
It was sad Kristy banged on about why Google hasn't brought down the Chinese Communist State, thats the job for the Chinese people , if they so choose !
Anyway back to Google -
I like Google because their web page loads up quick !
Also Google does A Lot for the open source community, I been following a Google funded project to write a driver for Linux that uses H/W for decoding of H.264 video(HD TV), as the hardware manufacturer refuses to make it's Linux driver decode H.264, even tho their driver for Microsoft operating system supports it.
Heres the link to the Google funded project
Plus Google embraces new technology, how many other search engines are IPv6 Ready ?
ipv6.l.google.com has IPv6 address 2001:4860:0:1001::68
Maybe a little hint there for the ³ÉÈËÂÛ̳ site to get IPv6 Ready ?
So Google wins hands down for me !
Happy Birthday Google, keep up the good work.
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Comment number 9.
At 6th Sep 2008, brossen99 wrote:It looks like the thought police were having a particularly paranoid episode last night, several posts bounced across the forums.
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Comment number 10.
At 6th Sep 2008, JunkkMale wrote:Gosh, lots of Google stories coming along all at once...
I guess Chrome and an anniversary are legit.
But I wonder if we will soon be treated to more, and if so what?
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Comment number 11.
At 6th Sep 2008, mademoiselle_h wrote:#7
Steve,
Here are some links you may find useful:
Free trade vs. Protectionism
Obama - renegotiate NAFTA
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Comment number 12.
At 6th Sep 2008, JadedJean wrote:brossen99 (#9) It may just be coincidental, but they appear to have become more active since the end of the Beijing olympics. The Chinese are often criticised by Western Human Rights activists for censuring their people's Human Rights...in fact, some behaviours in China are just unconstitutional/illegal.
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Comment number 13.
At 6th Sep 2008, Steve_London wrote:#11
Hi mademoiselle_h
Thanks for the links.
If I have read them right Obama is toning down his protectionist rhetoric now he has been selected the Democrats nominee and has won the Union vote.
I agree with both parties on the Chinese currency issue, they should fully float the yuan or import tariffs should go up against them.
I don't know much about NAFTA other than its a free trade zone(not a political union(ok a cheap dig at the EU)), so I cant comment on that.
As a believer in free trade myself I would go for expanding the American market place ,I would also welcome (as a European(well as a Briton)) a free trade agreement between the EU and NAFTA.
A few years ago I purchased some computer equipment from America (Made in America) and when I received it via post I also got a substantial import tax bill from HM Tax Department.This made the products a lot more expensive than what I could have got from elsewhere.
Also given the world situation the older industrialized countries should stick together, look what happened in the failed WTO Doha talks recently, the new/semi industrialized countries wanted free trade in our markets but strict limits on us having access to theirs.
Anyway enough of my rantings.
Thanks again for the links.
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Comment number 14.
At 6th Sep 2008, brossen99 wrote:Thanks jjean#12
My post that got chopped referred to your observations on " holocaust " ( population falls ) and I pointed out that the more intelligent " working class " had stopped breeding under Thatcher and Major. The same is true of Russia since the end of communism, perhaps people never bought into the corporate illusion.
Cities like Liverpool have been particularly badly hit by the corporate ethnic cleansing under the " Pathfinder " alleged regeneration scheme. Some 1500 well built Victorian/ Edwardian properties lie empty, they only need a few thousand spending on them to make them better than new. Small builders are queueing up to do the work but the Corporate Nazi council wont sell, I suspect that they were left empty to inflate house prices in other areas of the city. So much for the alleged free market.
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Comment number 15.
At 6th Sep 2008, ClownsRunTheTowns wrote:For the last 2 weeks, Newsnight has been giving saturation coverage to the conferences of political parties in a foreign country, for elections that it's viewers can't even vote in. Meanwhile, UKIP (a political party in this country) started it's own conference on Friday for the 2009 European elections (which Newsnights viewers CAN vote in) and Newsnight gives it about 10 seconds of coverage. How can Newsnight justify this?
"Do I remember the world before Google?" Yes I do, it was called Yahoo. Why are you giving all this free hype to Google as if Google is the same thing as the internet, other search engines were around before Google, Google is not the internet. It wouldn't be anything to do with former Newsnight editor Peter Barron going off to work for Google in a PR role would it?
Internet censorship: Whilst discussing internet censorship in China, we should also keep the in the back of our minds:
We wouldn't want to end up with a Great Firewall of the EU now, would we?
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Comment number 16.
At 6th Sep 2008, JadedJean wrote:BarrieSingleton deserves an acolate for christening the moderator(s) 'BLOGDOG'.
It's the perfect image for the electonic filter which screens/modulates our UK flagship news-purveyor's 'democratic' offerings.
As ClownsRunTheTowns says, some of us even remember (and contributed to) FidoNet, if not the establishment of the Internet :-(
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Comment number 17.
At 7th Sep 2008, JadedJean wrote:I meant to write 'acolyte', the other is a drug. Apologies.
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Comment number 18.
At 7th Sep 2008, barriesingleton wrote:AND ITS ACONITE FROM HIM
Basking in those approving words from JJ, I cannot help but point out that my dictionary of perversity, has 'accolade' as a mixture of Aconite and lemonade. In a little known play by Armand Legge, his anti-hero dies of imbibing this mix, in a nihilistic initiation ceremony into ODD (the Order of the Drunk Dead) its acolytes being referred to, thereafter, as 'Acolates'. I suspect it is this somewhat confused trail of synthetic phonetics (or synthesised phonemes as the pedants have it) that has brought low our good JJ's keyboarding.
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Comment number 19.
At 7th Sep 2008, JadedJean wrote:Aoccdrnig to , it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoatnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae. The rset can be a toatl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit a porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe.
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Comment number 20.
At 7th Sep 2008, barriesingleton wrote:CAPITULATION Z US
I yield Jaded Jean.
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