Tuesday, 31 March, 2009
Here's Paul Mason with news of what's happening tonight at 10.30pm on ³ÉÈËÂÛ̳ 2:
G20 is almost upon us.
President Sarkozy has threatened to walk out of the G20 summit if it does not pass some tangible measures. His foreign minister has today, saying that the French won't sign the communiqué if it is vacuous. What lies behind the stance of the big Eurozone powers? And could they really march, Greta Garbo style, out of the ExCel centre? Jeremy has just interviewed outspoken German finance minister, Peer Steinbruck. He was, as always, outspoken but told us it was "not very likely" that the Germans would follow President Sarkozy into the flouncing out lobby in Docklands. Watch Newsnight for his views on whether Gordon Brown's economic measures are working in Britain.
The former chairman of RBS, . As it happens, Lord Myners is, at the time of writing, giving evidence to a Lords committee. We will be watching closely.
Meanwhile, Richard Watson has spent the day in the City hearing from the police and protesters ahead of . What will the police and protesters tactics be? And what are bank workers doing in preparation for tomorrow's anti-capitalist demonstrations?
And do you remember ? She's the Woolworth's worker who was made redundant and took on the Employment minister live on Newsnight in February. We return to Swindon to spend a day with her as she tries to find a new job.
And we'll be examining the Obama effect as .
Do join us.
Comment number 1.
At 31st Mar 2009, JadedJean wrote:"President Sarkozy has threatened to walk out of the G20 summit if it does not pass some tangible measures"
He's short, so probably a natural at amateur dramatics (a CYP21, C6p21 brain gender thing possibly?).
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Comment number 2.
At 31st Mar 2009, streetphotobeing wrote:Obama really knows how to dress, he looked well sorted in a short piece of footage sporting casual attire the other day. My partner said : "crikey is he switched on and slamming or what"
Sarkozy may be small but he has a hell of a partner, another one with exquisite dress sense.
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Comment number 3.
At 31st Mar 2009, leftieoddbod wrote:he's short he's french so he's worth a mench he'll throw a strop, and have a pop at us and the yanks, and leave with no thanks, but at least we can say that he'll brighten our day as the rest of the dross...just don't give a toss
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Comment number 4.
At 31st Mar 2009, bookhimdano wrote:a report says '³ÉÈËÂÛ̳ is a parasite'?
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Comment number 5.
At 31st Mar 2009, JadedJean wrote:bookhimdano (#4) . Remember Policy Exchange, their receipts and vilification of mosque literature? If these 'Think Tanks' don't get to promote their common agenda, they get nasty.
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Comment number 6.
At 31st Mar 2009, JadedJean wrote:What's so ridiculous about all that we see and hear at the moment (and Brown's double-talk today was classic) is that by definition, the anarchistic free-market economies are light-touch regulated (if in reality regulated at all), so all this talk to the contrary is absolute gibberish. They don't even gamble with their own money, they do it with that of others money in nominee accounts! This all thrives on our naive faith in fair play, trust and our basic ignorance. We've had some of the ugliness exposed recently, but it isn't going to stop without a major change to how Liberal-Democracies run, and that, I suggest, is currently inconceivable to our politicians, as that would require real governance, command-economy style, not just legislating and then pretending that once enacted the legislation can be effectively enforced. Just look at the crimes which are notagainst the person, even % detection of most of those is down in single figures! Guess what that does to the reporting of it over time?
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Comment number 7.
At 31st Mar 2009, moraymint wrote:"Watch Newsnight for his views on whether Gordon Brown's economic measures are working in Britain".
Have you noticed how this politician's views on whether Gordon Brown's economic measures are working for Britain have now been watched the thick end of 2 million times?
He's on to something, methinks.
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Comment number 8.
At 31st Mar 2009, bookhimdano wrote:JJ
oh those loons.
anyone with a free blog seems to have a policy research outfit these days.
there must be a strange web of funding to support this growing 'reports industry'?
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Comment number 9.
At 31st Mar 2009, clownterror wrote:Referring to the article on Tina Owen.
It does not take experience to be a cashier and some times temporary work is a necessary step before permanent work is found. My mother was recently made redundent, she took temporary work until she found a more stable positon.
There is a way to get out of a problem and thats work not complaining on TV
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Comment number 10.
At 31st Mar 2009, TC-Eastwood wrote:Once again Paxman & guests go on about Obama being Black, when every one knows his mother was white, the guys of mixed race, whats wrong with that?. I wonder how he feels his Mother is never mentioned by the press/ media its as though she never existed.
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Comment number 11.
At 1st Apr 2009, barriesingleton wrote:COLOURLESS PAXMAN (#10)
Obama HAS to be black, or the whole charade falls apart. Navratilova was a phenomenal WOMAN tennis payer - was she not? Too much accuracy is toxic. (Hey - I used the T-word. My first time!)
Poor Barack even had to dig into HIS WIFE'S past to tap into slavery - what an Obummer. It is all so pathetic. We are supposed NOT TO NOTICE. Noticing is tantamount to racism isn't it?
I am off to a White Heterosexual, Masculist, Perversion-free Pride march. Anyone?
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Comment number 12.
At 1st Apr 2009, larswrites wrote:Was it a first for Newsnight, and possibly the Beeb? Proper spelling of an accented European word! Congratulations to whoever decided to caption the German Finance Minister correctly as Peer Steinbrück, abandoning the rather patronising use of the 'trailing e'. Now please can others follow this example.
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Comment number 13.
At 1st Apr 2009, Mistress76uk wrote:Excellent Jeremy last night - particularly with the German Finance Minister & Michael Fallon too :o)
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Comment number 14.
At 1st Apr 2009, JadedJean wrote:ANTI BULL-TERRIERISM
barrie (#11) "I am off to a White Heterosexual, Masculist, Perversion-free Pride march. Anyone?"
The articulate (but ill-informed) Black guest's remark about 'Black intelligence' was classic. It was akin to a female guest pointing to an accomplished female engineer or mathematician in support of an equally statistically indefensible thesis that men and women as classes are equally able in these areas.
I seem to recall one of the putting forth a Private Members Bill to increase the number of females in engineering and wondering what on earth was going on. It should not have surprised me
What a mad/irresponsible world. , gay and Black politicians promote another. Saying a group has low mean intelligence is not an insult any more than saying that one group has a height 'advantage'.
Note these politicians/anchor-persons don't try to teach people basic statistics - I guess it would be like trying to teach Bull-Terriers to be more like Labradors. The former are an excellent animal model of Anti-Social Personality Disorder by the way.
Anyone tempted to accuse me of inciting anti-Bull-Terrierism?
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Comment number 15.
At 1st Apr 2009, Millez wrote:Having never really warmed to Jeremy's methods, I was chilled by the angle taken with German Finance Minister last night.
To suggest current economic conditions would lead to political instability of the scale encountered in Europe in 1930's was deplorable.
The ³ÉÈËÂÛ̳ need to tighten the leash on certain presenters.
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Comment number 16.
At 1st Apr 2009, JadedJean wrote:Millez (#15) "To suggest current economic conditions would lead to political instability of the scale encountered in Europe in 1930's was deplorable."
Please explain why it was 'deplorable'.
Please note, usually, describing contingencies with aversive consequences based on past experience is not deemed 'deplorable' - just unsettling. 'Not going there' is also sometimes called 'denial' - technically 'conditioned avoidance'). Also sometimes known as being irrresponsible.
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Comment number 17.
At 1st Apr 2009, larswrites wrote:Re: #12 (my previous post)
Now I see that my carefully selected u-umlaut renders as an unknown character on this blogsite. And worse, the main Newsnight web page (at 12:15) reads "Peer Steinbruck on G20". No umlaut. No trailing 'e'.
What's the problem with treating the rest of the world with a bit of respect and spelling their names properly? OK, if the basic alphabet's different it has to be transliterated, but these are our near neighbours in Europe.
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Comment number 18.
At 1st Apr 2009, JadedJean wrote:That was an interesting remark from the about Anglo-Saxon (Wall-Street #5) bankers.
Given his , was that just irony or 'smoke and mirrors' on behalf of his masters? No doubt a few banking executives are being thrown to the wolves by Grey Cardinals, but just follow the statistical base-rates and high earners from the bubbles I say ;-)
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Comment number 19.
At 1st Apr 2009, thegangofone wrote:I am intrigued as to whether any journalist has been able to dig out the real Brown opinion on where we will be in a year or two.
He comes across as really believing that everything is going to bounce back and its all going to be roses for Labour and the economy.
In everybody else's world the spin can't last in terms of effecting public opinion and cold hard facts will point to the Iron Chancellor as a significant architect in the mess.
The knock-on problems like inflation, debt and probably heavily reduced public services as well as unemployment may haunt us for years.
Is he just "talking up" the economy very well or does he really believe you lose a trillion here and there and carry on as normal?
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Comment number 20.
At 1st Apr 2009, thegangofone wrote:#14 jaded_jean
As ever I only post to get across to any visiting neutral that your views:
"the articulate (but ill-informed) Black guest's remark about 'Black intelligence' was classic."
A lot of posters on this page each day are not the BNP or Nazis....
BUT .....
You are an "anarchist and Trotskyite" if you "paint Hitler darkly". They are quite touchy about Hitlers niece and the genetic purity of Himmler.
They like Hitler style planned economies.
They like race "realism" and eugenics.
They are hazy about the Holocaust.
They claim intellectual supremacy.
Their remarks on race are infantile "we all came out of Africa but some got left behind".
Their beef with Jews seems to relate almost entirely to Stalin kicking out anarchists and Trotskyites in the 30's - some of whom were Jewish. Its a facile variation of the "international Jewish conspiracy".
If you disagree and feel so inclined email your MP to promote the idea of making Holocaust Denial a crime as in Germany.
The Germans also banned a group that promoted far right racism to six year olds.
Having seen "BNP Wives" on Sky the other night and children at a BNP conference perhaps that is something the UK should consider.
But the ultimate point is that the black studio guest was very welcome last night and was appreciated.
The BNP hold their conferences in a field as they are unable to hire any venue and they get a paltry few sad individuals.
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Comment number 21.
At 1st Apr 2009, thegangofone wrote:On banking regulation is there any item on the agenda that would help facilitate the fight against money laundering and drugs cartels?
Would the French/German model help inhibit the cartels like the Gulf Cartel that is challening national sovereignty in Mexico?
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Comment number 22.
At 1st Apr 2009, JadedJean wrote:This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the house rules. Explain.
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Comment number 23.
At 2nd Apr 2009, JadedJean wrote:thegangofone (#20) "international Jewish conspiracy".
There was an international Jewish 'conspiracy' but the term consoiracy was mott - it was Jewish Bolshevism. This was de facto led by Leon Trotsky who argued that Stalinist Socialism in One Country would not work as it would be opposed by hostile forces elsewhere, there had to be an international socialist revolution, hence the Fouth International. These Jewish Bolsheviks were thrown out of the party in the 20s and 30s and Stalin was still ejecting them rght up to the beginning of WWII. WWII was delcared by the Axis Powers as a war against International Jewish Bolshevism supported by International Jewish finance. That's in the official documents so don't blame me for stating it.
Most of the orignal 1917 revolutionaries came from NYC and Trotsky was funded by NYC bankers (he was intercepted by the Candians en route, but let go). Some Jewish Bolsheviks were executed in the 1930s. The trials were public, attended by the world press - check it out, no secrets here. Trotskyites are invariably Jewish (cf. Ted Grant, Tony Cliff see the USA too). They do tell lies s entryism is part of the Trotskyite political strategy. They are anti-statist, so Thatcher's Conservativism (Keith Joseph was the ideologue) and New Labour were/are natural vehicles. Remember Militant in the 80s? That was Ted Grant's lot. The SWP was Tony Cliff.
Please check the history and stop abusing those who tell it as it is. Saying it's just a 'conspiracy theory' is just a way to throw people off, as is saying it's 'anti-semitism'. This is clever group politics at work, that's all. To accuse someone of not voting Conservative because they have a hatred for conservatives (modern conservativism was created by Disraeli by the way) is a sleight of hand. I personally have not hatred of Jewish people as a group, for what that's worth to you. I do despise dishonesty, duplicity and expoitation of others, though, and that comes from my training in applied science, that's all.
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