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Wednesday 5 January 2011

Verity Murphy | 11:46 UK time, Wednesday, 5 January 2011

Here's Kirsty with more details on tonight's programme:

The realities of governing can hit principles like a freight train. For both partners in the coalition government their opposition to Control Orders whilst Labour was in power is coming back to haunt them big time.

Introduced as a temporary and emergency measure by Tony Blair in 2005 they are still with us, with their imposition of indefinite restrictions on liberty, but yet not subject to the rigour of the courts.

We are about to find from the government whether they will be scrapped, remain, or be rebranded as something else.

Tonight we investigate just how effective they are, and what might happen to our national security if they are no more.

Why is it so hard to get a handle on this year's flu outbreak? It is predominantly swine flu but its symptoms go from one end of the scale to the other - from mild shivers to fatalities.

The Westminster government has been criticised for insufficient warnings in England and Wales, and a failure to run advertisements, as they did last year, which alerted people to the need for flu jabs.

Our Science Editor Susan Watts has been finding out whether we are now facing a flu epidemic, and if so what needs to be done by the NHS, and the politicians.

Kick start the year with Newsnight - the second instalment. Last night Mark Urban predicted some of the big global issues of 2011, tonight our Political editor Michael Crick reveals what he thinks will make the political weather this year - the players, the politics and the big flashpoints.

And Newsnight's political panel will be here to discuss it all.


Comments

  • Comment number 1.

    Is this history repeating itself again in Germany?

  • Comment number 2.

    "AND I SAY UNTO YOU"

    Just heard Special Envoy Blair waxing wise about the Middle East. Why has no one realised his 'expertise' lies in STARTING CONFLICTS, not ending them?

    Nuff sed.

  • Comment number 3.

    Ah! Talking rubbish. Will Mr Cameron be looking for Big Society volunteers again?

  • Comment number 4.

    There is only one story that matters - "It's the economy, stupid!"

    HMV news today is a serious issue - big fall in turnover, loads of shops to be closed and layoffs - could this be the beginning of the next recession, as consumers stay @ home - retail is a vital driver for the UK economy...

    Also it's reported that spending on unemployment benefits is running @ 拢1.5 Bn above forecast...

    Oil prices are surging - combined with the VAT rise and weaker Pound, price rises on the forecourt are really going to fuel inflation...

    Redundancy notices go out to thousands of local authority staff and civil servants shortly....

    New mortgage lending is at a very low level indeed...

    Yet we are told by the OBR that there will be 2.7 m NET new jobs, 拢400 Bn+ of new investment and exports up by a third....

    ...and the CBI calls for interest rates to rise ????

    I see the edge of the cliff approaching rapidly - looking over it, there's already a smashed up car below - it seems to have Irish number plates...

    Quick look in the rear view mirror - there seems to be a Spanish, a Portuguese, an Italian and even a French car approaching too... most of our main export trading partners in a line....

    Would someone PLEASE explain to me how taking up to 拢 1.1 Tn of aggregate demand out the UK economy equates to a rise in employment, investment and exports?

    Would someone also please explain to me how raising interest rates at the moment can make any sense?

    The economics of the madhouse..

  • Comment number 5.

    1

    there is a lot of extremism about and not just in germany.

    Monarchists are extremists who are anti human rights, anti democracy and have an apartheid structure to their organisation and language with a history of violence and torture. yet people praise it as something 'good'.

  • Comment number 6.

    4

    when you know for whom the economy is being run it makes perfect sense. who is doing well at the moment? its not the ordinary people.

    the 4 billion a year public subsidy to mainly millionaire landowners is ringfenced. there is no talk of a land tax.

    Govt figures have proved irrelevant as the uk economy is being held up by the black economy [which means its massive].

  • Comment number 7.

    BUT THERE ARE LOADS OF JOBS AT THE 成人论坛! (#4)

    Great armies of 'enhancers'. Adding extraneous noise, layer upon layer of video FX (do we still use that, going forward?) cutters, pasters, blurrers, distorters, real-time manipulators, overlayers, underlayers and freewomblers. And never-ending contract work for studio re-designers and decor makeover specialists.

    Relax. Like the Barbary Apes on Gibraltar, Britain's future is secure just as long as the 成人论坛 continues to make barbarous attack on all aspects of good broadcasting. Altogether now:

    "There'll be helicopters over, and over and over and over, to get dumb footage for the news. There'll be political analysis, that brings on brain paralysis, as we pay over-inflated dues." Hurrah!

  • Comment number 8.

    鈥榗asual cruelty鈥 of journalism

    ..Several journalists have contacted me in the past week to accuse our trade of an unacceptable rush to judgment in the coverage of the Joanna Yeates murder.

    One said: As a reporter myself who was rigorously schooled in the dangers of contempt during my training, I am amazed at the liberties taken by the press during this case.鈥..



    too much yap in the yapparrazzi?

  • Comment number 9.

    AH - YES - THE MADHOUSE. I THINK I MENTIONED THAT YESTERDAY (#4)

    Did we all hear Uber Pope Interfaith-Tony (see #2 above) today?* Tony used to be our Prime Minister. Tony was good at politics. They said he was shallow and had no time for detail - a blagger basically. He took us to war - but let's put that on one side. How did he get to be Prime Minister? After trying to be 'Mick Jagger 2', he learned Law (where winning is paramount) then went into politics (where winning is paramount). Being the 'right stuff' he was stuffed into a safe seat, and quickly rose to the top. There he played a politician - a creditable performance - until poor wee Jimmy G Brown forced him out. Chilcot terrified him - Hitchens (Christopher) crucified him. He is an example to us all - an example of the sort of individual the Westminster ethos will continue to 'throw up', until we spike the citadel guns.

    *Tony spoke vacuous claptrap on the Israel/Palestine impasse. But then why do anything else if you can get by on it?

    SPOILPARTYGAMES.

  • Comment number 10.

    ARE THE POLICE BECOMING YET ANOTHER BRANCH OF SHOWBIZ? (#8 link)

    I have noticed an increasing tendency to 'perform' for the cameras and pass judgements (post judgement of course) on villains. Does a uniform appeal to a subset of 'limelight seekers'? I seem to remember a recent high-profile case of limelightitis, more or less bringing down a senior copper.

    Who's left? Media is lost to it. Perhaps the all-singing all-dancing NHS is waiting in the wings. Watch this spot, going forward.

  • Comment number 11.

    I no longer watch Newsnight.

    It is badly researched, too politically correct, pro-multicultural, replete with pro-ethnic censorship and avoids the important questions on every topic.

    Kirsty Wark in particular is appalling - constantly interrupting to such an extent that any form of sustained comment by an interviewee is impossible.

    It has become 'typically 成人论坛' - inconsequential tosh and journalistically irrelevant.

  • Comment number 12.

    At long last it would appear that Conmoron is waking up to the fact that alleged green taxes damage our economy and destroy jobs. It would appear that " Diesel Dyke " is lost for words since Labour opposed the Tories when they first proposed the alleged " fuel price stabiliser " in 2008. The only trouble is the damage is already done and perhaps if the Tories were genuine they would have scrapped the recent increases in road fuel duty in their alleged emergency budget.

    /news/uk-politics-12123843

  • Comment number 13.

    activists who planned to shut down a coal-fired power station near Nottingham

    ..In a statement after the sentences were handed down, the defendants said: "We still feel our actions are a reasonable response to the irrational destructive situation, of runaway climate change ... that we are taking action on climate change is no longer an option its a necessity...

    climate terrorism?

    where was that link on NN about how climate had to be sold as a done deal?

  • Comment number 14.

    I FORGOT SCIENCE AS SHOWBIZ @10 (#13)

    Climate terrorism is more farce - but still showbiz in an ironic way.

    Nobody wrote this novel.

  • Comment number 15.

    9

    Knew Blair quite well in the 80s - no fan then or now.

    Trouble was, we deserved him - backlash against Old Left and against New Right - we were seduced by "the Third Way" - there had to be a "middle way" between these extremists, and there was - let rip the City and milk it to fund do-gooder politics with a Catholic soul and usher in "Cool Britannnia".

    Drivel - but we bought it - so far it's cost all - EVERY many, woman & child - about 拢40k EACH.

    We were endlessly told that the economy couldn't afford to invest in social care, industry or the environment - by all three main Parties - yet we could suddenly find tens of billions to bail out the banks - LIES.

    Now finally reality will give the lie to libertarian economics when the coalition's cuts policy hits the same buffers as it has in Eire - we will finally learn the lesson and recognise that globalisation is simply a way to equally impoverish "coolies" in the third world and "consumers" in the first and it way past time we started running our economy and society in the interests of its people.

    Sorry for the blunt language - sometimes it pays to be upfront - the chinese worker forced off the land into a dangerous, polluted factory is equally the victim of globalisation as the car worker who loses their job in the US or EU nad if forced to live on poverty benefits.

  • Comment number 16.

    Here's an interesting angle on religion here, but Tony won't like it.

  • Comment number 17.

    LIVING WITHIN THE LIE THAT IS KEPT ALIVE BY THE WESTMINSTER CITADEL (#15)

    Vaclav Havel wrote eloquently of the 'revolt of the greengrocer'. His tale was set in a totalitarian country, where it is better to toe the line and vote in the meaningless elections, than to make waves. Doesn鈥檛 that feel familiar?

    Go to part III

    There then, or here now, the controlling force is FEAR. Since the 9/11 Superlie, politics has had TERROR as an ally. The recent election was fought using FEAR; fear of what the terrible other party would do; no positive message.

    Until the voters awake to just how evil (advisedly) our political system is - routinely devious, disingenuous, amoral, immoral and contemptuous - we EACH equate to Havel's greengrocer, supinely displaying the fawning party message in our window. Only when we, en masse, take down the sign and 'step outside the lie' will anything, remotely, change. Such is the irony of 'CHANGE' coming from all sides in the election. Citadels reinforce - they do not change.

  • Comment number 18.

    THE MIDDLE WAY OF INTERFAITH-TONY (#15)

    It was only recently that I spotted Tony's latest ploy. I had previously worked out the value of 'being Catholic', when I heard there are 71 Catholic bodies around the world, where he can 'evacuate' from a stage at the drop of a glottal. (Tony has always liked to deliver from on high - in the manner of Jesus.)

    But ONE Church is so very limiting, even though global. So the ever-resourceful Blair went INTERFAITH. A master-stroke from The Master himself. Now he is never more than a step away from the next stepping stone to ultimate greatness.

    Richard Bunning says we deserved Tony. That is strong language Richard. I wince. We nurtured him - yes (as a viper in our bosom) but NO ONE deserves Tony Blair - not even the poor dos himself.

  • Comment number 19.

    Oh dear!

  • Comment number 20.

    18

    Sorry - we did deserve Blair because we wanted to believe there was a middle way between stalinist Old Labour and capitalism-red-in-tooth-and-claw Thatcherism.

    We wanted the free market, laissez faire, american-dream society where we could all be free to get wealthy AND we would have a reformed welfare state that was compassionate, a caring society where government wraps us in a cocoon of cottonwool, but money can be made and spent.

    Whilst British industry went to hell in a handcart and the City became a bloated monster, we ran up the bills whilst the wizz kids dreamed up ever more complex ways to sell us worthless rubbish and bankroll our greed with cheap credit.

    We deluded ourselves - free lunches do not exist - someone ultimately has to pay for them - Blair merely listened to the focus groups, analysed the opinion polls and told us what we wanted to hear.

    When we stop deluding ourselves about what the free market or the state can and cannot really provide, then we can say that we've moved on from him.

    Public opinion is firmly against the City culture and IMHO quite rightly blames the bankers for their greed and irresponsibility, yet we merrily vote for a political party that is to all intents and purposes The Bankers' Party - what proportion of Tory MPs are directly or indirectly linked to the City?

    Who let the genie out of the bottle by deregulating the banks? Who advocated "light touch" regulation? Who allowed the whole series of rip offs in pensions, mortgages and excessive banking charges to start? Mrs T and her henchmen like John Redwood - or as john Major more accurately called, them, "the b*st*rds."

    Blair didn't open Pandora's Box - he simply failed to slam it shut - the architects of this global financial mess are the libertarians who insinuated their ideology into the fabric of British politics - and until we squeeze them back out, we only have ourselves to blame.

  • Comment number 21.

    Tony Blair became leader of the Labour party because he was the only candidate the labour party saw as capable of winning an election. To regain power they were prepared to sacrifice the lot, whilst voters voted for "a change"; that's why we got Blair; the Labour party got Blair.

    Now the Party of the Young Jewish Dentist - as opposed to the Older Jewish Dentist Party - is completely lost.

    Now Clegg is vilified for "breaking a promise/pledge"; this is all about politics growing up in UK; and us seeing politicians in a more grown up way.

    Remember Blair promised no tuition fees, then introduced them.

    Education, education,education meant the overnight conversion of perfectly good technical colleges and other FE institutions into so called "universities", substantial increases in salaries for tutors who miraculously overnight became "lecturers" and the introduction of tuition fees to pay for all this legerdemain.

    Blair's a fake now as he was then; Clegg AND Cameron don't quite have the same whiff of sulphur so methinks we'll be reasonably safe with them, even if they break a few promises or pledges along the way; who hasn't?

  • Comment number 22.

    #20

    Well said rb!

  • Comment number 23.

    THE TRUTH OF THE PUDDING (#20 & #21)

    As Richard Bunning writes, ALMOST IN PASSING, "we merrily vote for a political party ". Precisely: voters vote for rosettes. Would your local MP survive the loss of their rosette (party endorsement) at the next election? When you meet them, out canvassing - ASK THEM. I asked my MP, Richard Benyon; he looked like a weasel caught in the foglights - no response.

    Tony Blair was once a rosette with a deluded, ambition driven juvenile under it. Once 'honourable' his 'personality' overthrew the rosette, and the rest is legacy. The party system is the Westminster citadel's guarantee of corrupt continuance.

    SPOILPARTYGAMES

  • Comment number 24.

    I think this is a massive story. State sponsored murder?!?

    The Daily Mail barely scratches the surface on this story but at least reports it.



  • Comment number 25.

    yapparrazzi claim their work is for the public good and not private profit? media work for pay and profit.

  • Comment number 26.

    STATE SPONSORED MURDER (#24)

    Odd - they usually do them in batches of 3000.

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