Tuesday 12 April 2011
Tonight former foreign secretary David Miliband speaks to Jeremy about the long running Afghanistan conflict which he warns is in danger of becoming a forgotten war.
He calls for a political framework to be put in place that would help bring an end to the conflict in Afghanistan, including talks with the Taliban, and also denies that he dreams of one day becoming prime minister.
We also have a film from David Loyn who has visited Helmand province to find out how a new stabilisation strategy is making some progress following the troop surge there.
Our Science editor Susan Watts has discovered that British nuclear plants may extend exclusion zones around their sites as a result of the Fukushima nuclear disaster, possibly affecting existing population centres.
And it is 50 years since Yuri Gagarin made the first ever manned space flight. We will be discussing the scientific and cultural impact of his pioneering voyage with former astronaut Buzz Aldrin.
Join Jeremy at 2230 on 成人论坛 Two.
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At 12th Apr 2011, brossen99 wrote:/news/uk-england-hampshire-13035648
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At 12th Apr 2011, richard bunning wrote:Re: Helmand
We need a serious military appraisal of the situation:
We started with symmetrical warfare - Taliban fighting conventionally - and losing, so they were driven into fighting an assymetrical war.
Assymetric warfare is about avoiding direct actions by using IEDs, sniping and assassination, but it needs munitions and a host community ready to support the insurgents.
In N. Ireland the PIRA had these elements, but gradually the intelligence got better, the will of the host community to support the terrorists waned and the military's ability to interdict bomb supplies and to detect and defuse IEDs grew - Gerry Adam realised he couldn't win with the bomb & armalite, so the war ended.
This process is unfolding in Helmand - the deployment of a Royal Engineers Battlegroup to ramp up the counter-IED work was critical once the surge enabled the coalition to take and hold the ground. Now with IED supplies being choked off, insurgents killed or captured and IEDs being detected and defused as well as the infrastructure and healthcare initiatives going in to win over the host population, IMHO the Taliban are losing and the pace of rolling them back will pick up over the summer.
No insurgency based on assymetric warfare has ever really won against the sort of capability that coalition forces have in Helmand and whilst there may still be attacks for many years to come, it is hard to see how the Taliban can respond to the weight of technology and manpower now deployed against them.
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At 12th Apr 2011, barriesingleton wrote:A CRITICAL LOOK AT EDGY NUCLEAR
I wonder if Susan will press a Sizewellnik to define the worst case scenario? Taking into account recent extreme weather events.
I still reckon nuclear is UNIQUE in that it only yields useable heat by being in a 'runaway' state. When the unexpected happens, you can 'declutch' but there are no brakes. These juggernaught must be allowed to roll to a stop - over a period of time that cannot be shortened.
One more ought to do it.
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At 12th Apr 2011, stevie wrote:we seem to be saying we are immune from these catastrophic events that hit Japan and the West coast of America because they are on fault lines but we had a big one in 1755 just off Portugal which affected millions and three hundred years is a minute in volcanic eruption events, we are a little complacent...Voltaire wrote about it...
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At 12th Apr 2011, Mistress76uk wrote:Look forward to Jeremy's full interview with David Miliband tonight :o)
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At 12th Apr 2011, barriesingleton wrote:MORE LIVING WITHIN THE LIE - WHY NOT, IF GOVERNED BY LIES?
If it looks like a brick, flies like a brick, and drops like a brick - it's probably a Chinook.
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Comment number 9.
At 12th Apr 2011, barriesingleton wrote:KEISER REPORTS (#7)
Hi Bro - at your prompting I am a regular Keiser watcher.
None of his purview seems to impinge on Mason, Peston et al.
Parallel universes?
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Comment number 10.
At 12th Apr 2011, mademoiselle_h wrote:Surely last night鈥檚 debate should be centered on whether government should ban the wearing of Niqab for Muslim women, not whether Muslim women should wear the face veil in the first place. The former is a government policy, whereas the latter is a religious practice which has been going on for decades and centuries. Therefore I think Jeremy conducted the debate on the right issues.
For Muslim women who are already living in western democracies, I personally think they should have the freedom to choose including freedom to practice their religion. Actually the root cause of the problem is not women wearing face veils, it is lax immigration policy. You can鈥檛 allow Muslim population to migrate to Europe in large numbers, and on the other hand, say you don鈥檛 like that and force them to act in a certain way. The right way is to say no when they apply in the first place 鈥 but I guess politicians and their sponsors (big corporations) want to keep their cheap labour.
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Comment number 11.
At 12th Apr 2011, JAperson wrote:A child with a smile.
Haddock and chips (with salt - yes, with salt! - and, annoyingly, 鈥榥on-brewed condiment鈥 )
鈥淟oadsa monee鈥 (Well .... enough .... eventually .... maybe .... hopefully??)
鈥橳hat鈥 glint in your lover鈥檚 eye.
Believing the new kitten may finally be flea free, and seeing her come back from her first trip out.
Glimpsing a couple hand in hand and not indulging in 鈥榩hysical gymnastics of the senses鈥 in public.
Seeing the bedroom ceiling first thing each and every morning.
Ten Thirty to Eleven Twenty, Monday to Friday.
Not upsetting the Moderator.
Knowing that May 5th 鈥榓int so far off.
A secular society.
A muslim woman in western attire.
A raspberry jam doughnut with just a bit too much jam.
A toothache that doesn鈥檛 require a Dentist.
Seeing a light at the end of the tunnel.
Knowing that the other one never turned up on that day.
Being thanked. Being willing - and able - to say 鈥榯hanks鈥
Loving, and being loved.
Knowing people of truly unbelievable courage stay behind after the disaster. i.e. Chernobyl and Fukushima.
Seeing 鈥淒iamond Lil鈥 on a bright clear morning.
A paddle in The Wash knowing there is a dry towel waiting.
A shop assistant that smiles back.
A peaceful and dignified death.
Being indifferent to the believed existence of a god and not bothered by it.
But most of all ..... and please personalise to taste .....
Knowing that there is a Goddess, and that she chose to marry you.
(OK! So you may not agree with everything on the above list but what do you expect for two and sixpence an hour!)
It is, from any perspective, hard to define exactly what 鈥榠t鈥 is:
Happiness, like all emotional concepts, is transient and intangible. Desired and admired yet quasi-unquantifiable.
Now Deity Conmoron wants to know what makes us 鈥榟appy鈥 whence he may (鈥渕ay鈥 being key!) be inclined to do something to make us 鈥榟appier鈥 if he can. ( 鈥渋f he can鈥 being a 鈥榝uture tactics鈥 point to note!)
The fact that he has to 鈥榓sk鈥 shows just how much he is 鈥榠n touch鈥 with the electorate!
Perhaps (With due apologies to Andrew Neil) ....
鈥淐all me 鈥榖ig society鈥 Deity鈥 might have learnt a thing or two if he鈥檇 ever lived in the real world
.... and maybe then he鈥檇 stop with all the bovine faecal matter!
Personally? ....... Happiness ....
A generous benefactor 鈥榙onating鈥 a tower named akin to Newton鈥檚 fruit and Adam鈥檚 鈥榙ownfall鈥 ....
.... to replace this one as the wax cylinder is wearing out!
And ... Oh yes! ....
Someone ask the family of the sixteen year old girl whether they think 鈥榮top and search鈥 has any value?
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At 12th Apr 2011, Mistress76uk wrote:Loved Jeremy's interview with D Miliband - particularly when asked if he still wanted to be PM, oh and why nothing had been done (as promised by DM) in Afghanistan all those years ago:p
I never knew Britain only had a 1 km radius safety zone, whereas the US has 10 miles. Worrying stuff :o( What happened to 'elf and safety? Very interesting discussion with Aldrin et al on space too.
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At 12th Apr 2011, barriesingleton wrote:SO MILIBAND-D JUST DROPPED IN - YEAH RIGHT
Suddenly he feels the need to go all statesmanlike about Afghanistan. Mmmnn. Who was all that aimed at?
I think the head of the 'World Nuclear Association' has a good chance of winning WORLD'S MOST VACUOUS MAN - Poor Jeremy. Up came the defensive crossed-arms and then the scoundrel LAUGHED AT HIM (but not before they had both used LEVVERAGE as a pointless substitute for 'influence').
AND FINALLY: No goat pen, a brown greenhouse, and a field of pumps. Didn't we do well! But one squaddy had brought 'NEWCASTLE COFFEE' - I suppose it comes from a branch of Yorkshire Tea.
In passing, I didn't notice any of our lot speaking the language (rule one of acceptance).
Ee I addio we won the war.
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At 12th Apr 2011, barriesingleton wrote:SAFETY ZONE - SECURITY BLANKET
Are we talking FALLOUT or suspended particles? Are we talking BOOM! or smoulder?
I heard nothing of wind direction. e.g. If masses flee down-wind on clogged roads, they will be travelling within contaminated air. (If they flee after boom-and-fallout, they take contamination - who knows where.
And lots more like that. Pretty obvious the zones are just for controlling the masses.
Rather reminiscent of the precautions to be taken after nuclear bomb.
Still living within the lie.
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At 13th Apr 2011, ecolizzy wrote:#10 You're right mademoiselle about not explaining to immigrants the rights and wrongs of living in Europe, but wrong about this, "I guess politicians and their sponsors (big corporations) want to keep their cheap labour."
Half muslim men and three quarters of muslim woman don't work here, so they are not here for their cheap labour, makes you wonder doesn't it?!
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At 13th Apr 2011, barriesingleton wrote:BUT THINK WHAT THEY ARE DOING FOR DIVERSITY LIZZY! (#15link)
Did you read the top of St Trevor's whiteboard - fairness, respect, confidence IN DIVERSITY.
Now that the tish is hitting the fan, there will be a pause while it distributes itself fairly, respecting no one. Thereafter, I am confident we shall see the time-honoured realities of diversity.
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At 13th Apr 2011, kevseywevsey wrote:japerson wrote:
"Someone ask the family of the sixteen year old girl whether they think 鈥榮top and search鈥 has any value?"
I just thought that was worth repeating.
Has it been a slow news day?
Interesting speech Gordon Brown made the other day. Something about de-regulating the banks and what followed was his fault. It was a bigger story in the States - where the speech was given - than it was over here..interesting that eh.
How's the war..the Libya one, you know, the rebels are getting some air cover yeah..that one, have we won yet? I only ask because last time I watched the 成人论坛, this military intervention was gonna be a cakewalk; in and out in two minutes to help some young people with ipods and twitter accounts chanting 'death to America'..er I mean 'democracy!
Do you ever get the feeling someone's having a laugh at your expense?!
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At 13th Apr 2011, JunkkMale wrote:'Dreams of PMs'
Might have been interesting to also get Mr. Miliband's views on what qualifications gets, or should get one into Oxford.
Possibly, the right kind of brother (if not in a relative sense)?
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