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HAS LIZ MacKEAN READ ZIMBARDO?

In the Age of Colonisation and Acquisition, we created many false boundaries and unstable regimes worldwide; we supplied arms and training in killing. Then we left.

Now, in the Age of Perversity, we know all too well what we did wrong, even apologising where convenient, but we still persevere (a word close to 'perversity').

Nuff sed.

'Plus we look at the government's energy policy '

With luck applying the same objective, forensic, tenacious professional rigour to this story as to others of topical note.

Because I am just wondering who the heck 'the UK public' is most pols and media claim to be speaking for now, 'cos it sure ain't me or any folk I know.

Then again, I don't live within the London Congestion Charge zone.

Looking forward to Paul's piece.

If La Bella Italia goes the way of Greece, can Espania be very far behind?

I've not seen very much on why the balance of authority opinion has swung behind a Greek default, other than commonsense which indicates they can't pay it off and they can't cut public spending without getting into the liquidity trap of a shrinking economy.

IMHO the Uk will shortly be in the firing line too, as the economy is at best flatlining even before the public spending cuts really bite, the welfare bill grows, tax take falls and debt rises not falls, as it has everywhere else drastic cuts have been tried.

If & when this happens, will Cameron be able to sack George Osborne? He's looking pretty beleagured already - and who would replace GO? If the economic plicy here is one thing, it's the bedrock of the coalition - if it manifestly fails, it's hard to see how they could backpedal without losing all legitimacy.

Bom, de bom, bom, bommmmmmm .......

It鈥檚 .......

鈥淣ature at it鈥檚 most hideous鈥� Time!鈥�

Tonight .......

鈥楾he human being plays it鈥檚 little game!鈥�

Two tribes, two domains, two intents. But only one outcome ......

Survival!

You may find it almost impossible to believe but .....

Fitness has absolutely nothing to do with it ........

Honest!

(Fifty four words)

The elite, two factions, each wary of the other. Two cabals, each intent on the annihilation of the obvious foe. Yet the required destruction, of the group that each opposes, is sought for entirely different reasons., one seeks to destroy those whom challenge their - heralded as by right - superiority, the other seeks to occupy the 鈥榟ouse鈥� of their enemy. Strangely - to those that look up to these 鈥� inhabitors of the other places鈥� - all appears serene and secure.

But not so!

(One hundred and fifty nine words ...... Gotta keep count! Da dreaded four zero zero is coming up fast ..... Drat, now up to One hundred and seventy nine. Whom so-ever says society is 鈥榙umbing down鈥� and we need to more direct, to the point, succinct? Oh yes, there we go ... those that tweet. Come on now, what is it that they call themselves? Oh yes ..... Tweeters. Hang on! To save space do they tweet 鈥楾weeters鈥� as 鈥楾wits鈥� Drat. I need to 鈥榯wit鈥� this a bit, I鈥檓 up to Two hundred and twenty four! Must get to the point .... Drat, another five gone! Anyway ...... )

Despite their - often not so - quiet contempt of, and for, each other all members of both groups have two much higher desires than for the obliteration of the other. Namely the continuation of the collective and - the species imperative - survival of the self!

(Two hundred and eighty two.)

Sadly for you, the great British public, and me (Now, now! No rude words please. I鈥檓 pretty sure that you鈥檝e already moved on by now 鈥榗oz your probably not really interested in , or bothered, what anybody else has to say, you just want to see your own thoughts planted in the ether for eternity! Oops! I鈥檓 sorry! I鈥檓 soooo sorry! That must come across as rude. It鈥檚 not meant to be, blame the fact that I鈥檓 a recovering intellect! .... (Still in treatment!) )

(Three hundred and sixty nine words! Aargh! I鈥檓 not gonna make it! Pull up! Pull up! Neurone alert! Neurone alert! Engage intellect!)

The point of the above - to hell with all this 鈥榯wit stuff鈥� - is simply

成人论坛 trying to hide this as well !

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Look we're in second place...

"The US was home to 1,130,200 immigrants in 2009, a rise of 2.1% on 2008. The UK follows in second place, seeing a jump of 14.5% on the number of immigrants since the previous year. However the UK is also ranked the 8th highest for the number of people migrating to other OECD countries - 133,000 people migrated in 2009."

@ Lizzy #7 - Thanks for that article. Regardless of the amount of immigrants going to the USA and the UK, it must be remembered that the USA is over 40 times bigger than the UK. According to the World Bank's 2009 population figures, Britain has 61.8million inhabitants.....and all EU borders (except Denmark) are open to all....... there's only so many you can fit on an island! At the next election, perhaps people might seriously think about voting for UKIP.

Further to 5. At 18:10 12th Jul 2011, JAperson wrote: above .....


It has been reported on C4 News that NI did it鈥檚 utmost to bring down GB because he stood up against the Emperor Ming., Strangely somebody else got the 鈥榮upport鈥� because 鈥榟e鈥� was more compliant! And now the 成人论坛 reports that one title in the same stable tried to 鈥榖ring down鈥� GB when a minister!

Looking at the bigger picture .....

Virtually none of those in either house wanted to take a stand simply because they were potential 鈥榲ictims鈥� of (my) previously mentioned 鈥渃upboard files鈥� (Everybody has a skeleton in a cupboard somewhere. Some can live with it, some can鈥檛 and some are terrified beyond paralysis! One could argue that too many of this latter group aspire to power. ) Others perhaps didn鈥檛 want to bite the hand that might one day feed them! Let鈥檚 be straight., How much - in a top rated restaurant i.e. the upper echelons of 鈥榩ower鈥� - does a satiated appetite cost? Let鈥檚 be honest .... There鈥檚 no such thing as a free lunch, at any time of year!

Sadly most sitting in both the houses of Westminster were, as individuals, terrified to - to use someone else's post comment - throw stones for fear of being singled out. One tried but..... Now they all take the high-ground and - vocally - join in the hail-storm! (Most notably the recent 鈥榖arrage鈥� from one newbie was beyond the worst level of hypocrisy! But, Hey! The bandwagon is rolling! ) It鈥檚 getting a little bit like a quasi lynch mob, safety in numbers, each watching out for others but primarily looking after themselves and praying that they do not stray too far from the safety of the pack.

It would be easy to think that no member of the public will pay too much attention to any attempt to smear any of those on the 鈥榓ttack鈥� but the cupboard still retains it鈥檚 content. A recent referral to this cupboard soon got one 鈥榰p there鈥� wayward 鈥榩up鈥� back to the litter.

Now here鈥檚 some more issues;

How far up does this all go? And where will the buck stop? Are some 鈥榰p-there鈥檚鈥� really in full pursuit to keep the cupboard permanently closed? Whom is shielding whom? Whom is next to be placed on the sacrificial altar?

I鈥檝e said it before - repeated by another poster - and I鈥檒l say again .....

鈥淔ollow the money!鈥�


400.

Alex Jones apologises for his 9/11 misdemeanors

Domino Tuesday

Italy flashes a big red.

What a bumper edition tonight! Absolutely loved Jeremy with Hugh Grant/Lord Fowler/Alton discussion on the alleged practices of a few journalists who published confidential medical records and hacked phones, and as pointed out by Lord Fowler (more of him please), are illegal. :o) Chris Huhne was absolutely slaughtered by Jeremy tonight!

:p Nugoyd didn't fair too well either....

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Pity Jeremy either finds energy policy too boring, or can find too little to disagree with Chris Huhne's position. We might have learnt something (instead of going over the same old territory on Andy Coulson) if the questioning had been as tough and sceptical on energy policy as we usually get on other issues. The mess announced today is riddled with fallacies and illogicalities, but the interview failed even to scratch the surface or hint at problems.

Two-thirds of gas is used for heating. Heating is highly seasonal and nuclear is highly expensive if not run for baseload, so nuclear is no replacement for gas. And people need heat when it's cold (and usually still), so wind is no replacement for gas. And heat is mostly small-scale and distributed, whereas carbon capture and storage is large-scale and concentrated, so CCS is no replacement for gas. So how does Huhne get away with arguing that we should bankrupt the country promoting these white elephants on the grounds that we will otherwise be too dependant on gas?

Feeble.

So bad I'll say it twice.....



I think Huhne can forget any of his energy policies, with this many people keep arriving we'll run out of any type of power shortly.

Follow the money indeed on this story, but also the tactics of using personal infomation in a coercive manner.

Keeping files on employees also appears to be a News Corp MO to stave off whilstleblowers, well at least on the other side of the Atlantic:

'16. At 23:53 12th Jul 2011, bgprior - Pity Jeremy either finds energy policy too boring, or can find too little to disagree with Chris Huhne's position.

That we did seem to be moving on from a singular obsession to other pertinent, newsworthy aspects of this country's governance was welcome.

Getting an actual Minister as opposed to a bunch of Alzheimers-afflicted ex's or media-dynastic yummies was also a plus.

But being reminded just how inept and compromised the politico-media estate is in terms of dealing with reality and reporting upon it was just more depressing still.

CONCISE AND COGENT (#16)

A pleasure to read your post bgprior. Jeremy excelled in disgracing himself in that 'interview'. I came the conclusion that little boy Paxi, just doesn't like Huhne and was intent on showing it. How much is he paid - again?

To my mind - all the well aired caveats notwithstanding - your summation leads to tidal power. Even lower yield tides ARE CONSTANT and, in the long term, must surely be cost effective? In Britain you are never far from a tide, and we have marine engineering expertise to spare (plus inventive ability unrivalled).

Nuclear it is then.

Of course, that PR Huhne is 'doing Energy' Tells how Dave's mind is working - we are being sold what we don't want, that can't work, at a high price.

Nuff sed.

@21 Good link Hawkeye. People who think that the NI story isn't important, should look at how the US has become more polarised and less governable over the last two decades. Fox has played a big part in this, and that is what Rupert wants for this country. The consequences for the US are economic and social as the current budget crisis shows.

Krugman's take may be predictable, but it is widely shared on both sides of the Atlantic.



I think his phraseology "phone-hacking scandal metastasizes" is particularly apt. The late Denis Potter named the cancer which killed him "Rupert".

In another blog, Krugman comments on the US scene: "You can鈥檛 make any sense of American political discourse if you give everyone credit for really wanting what they claim to want. My sense is that there are very few true deficit hawks; the vast majority of those who claim that title are really just using the deficit to pursue the goal of a more unequal society."

Look at the current UK government's strategy with this in mind. We could cut OUR deficit by making companies like NI pay a proper amount of tax on their UK activities. It's ALL connected!

IF YOU CAN STOMACH INTEGRITY - FOLLOW BRO99 LINKS (#18 AND #19)

Tony Farrell - HE JUST COULD NOT LIVE WITHIN THE LIE!

Did no one here follow your links Bro? Have they ALL come to love Big Brother?

With the latest, and greatest, of OVERTLY devious PMs in post, DO THEY STILL BELIEVE IN WESTMINSTER GOVERNANCE?

Nuff sed.

Re @16, @22. One of the big problems with renewables is reliable storage of energy. I am sure that this is a solvable electrical/chemical engineering problem. For a start, excess tidal power could be used to produce hydrogen gas by electrolysis of water.

A big problem is that too much government policy is decided on the basis of to whom it gives a business opportunity, rather than the public good.

'23. At 09:57 13th Jul 2011 - little boy Paxi, just doesn't like Huhne and was intent on showing it'

If it's all the same, as one of the poor saps 'they' all claim to be speaking 'for', it would be refreshing if UK politics, and reporting of same, could drag itself out of kindergarden 'N'yah, n'yah' contests based on who likes who, or not, and regained some objectivity, professionalism and competence.

He said... without any hope.

THE EXPERTISE OF IDS (#20 link)

The last time IDS had the 'casting whip', he marched his pathetic troops half way up St Tony's Hill, AND WE GOT A WAR THAT NO ONE WANTED. Such judgement should only be applied SOLELY to which colour Smartie should be eaten next.

If this is a senior statesman, it is clear reason to

SPOILPARTYGAMES - DISMANTLE WESTMINSTER - MANAGEMENT BEFORE POLITICS

#28 Spoilpartygames and dismatle westminster is about right Barrie, it's already happened the EU rule us nowadays. Looks as though every pensioner in europe will be heading our way, while we wrangle about who's been spying on whom.



I see job seeker claims are up again, all this bad news skittering along while we argue about journalists spying.

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re #30

Oh dear. It seems one cannot mention the word "Racket" on the 成人论坛 blogs!

Despite it having a somewhat pertinent definition (courtesy of Wikipedia):

"Traditionally, the word racket is used to describe a business (or syndicate) that is based on the example of the protection racket and indicates a belief that it is engaged in the sale of a solution to a problem that the institution itself creates or perpetuates, with the specific intent to engender continual patronage."

any construction of newspaper rules should be done in the presence of those families targeted for fun and profit.