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isn't afghanistan now just 'the battleground' for militants in Pakistan?

unless the supply lines from pakistan are stopped its always a lost war? they can wait it out , play the long game, whereas we can't.

we pay our landowner/farmers 4 billion a year. If we didn't maybe they too would be growing drugs?

will iran feel like helping if the telegraph report is true?

...Israel has launched a covert war against Iran as an alternative to direct military strikes against Tehran's nuclear programme, US intelligence sources have revealed.

It is using hitmen, sabotage, front companies and double agents to disrupt the regime's illicit weapons project, the experts say....

THE KARZAI - BROWN IDENTITY

I was forcibly struck by Karzai's theatrical declaration that all Afghanistan's troubles arise from a lack of co-ordination between the members of the 'Coaliton of the Misguided'. How similar to Brown's shrill pleas that we accept the World-Age of Irresponsibility was the cause of all Britain's monetary woes, and not the bursting of Prudence Brown's 'notme.gov' dot com bubble.

(My thanks to whichever blogger supplied 'notme.gov')

Some things are just out of our control, and this evidently is one thing. We may stop drugs from flowing the way it used to be, but I think as long as there are wars, three will be drugs.


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Plan Z

Apologise to the people of Afghanistan.
Give them one year's notice of total withdrawal.
Pay them reparations.
Let them elect whoever they want.
Let them determine their own structure.
Subsidise their economy with whatever our current military spend is for the next 5 years.
Continue to pay widows pensions.

Hi Mark Urban, I have just opened the newspaper on your article about your Great Uncle. My Great Uncle was also killed at the 2nd battle of Gaza and is buried there. I have so much information about him (including a hand drawn sketchy map of where his headstone is) and so many photographs. He was with the Royal Berkshire Yeomanry. I always feel incredibly sad when I think about him as I knew his sister (my Great Granny) very well. If you go back to Gaza will you search out his grave for me? Although I travel frequently to The Middle East I have never been to Gaza. Clare Shepherd [Personal details removed by Moderator]

[Personal details removed by Moderator]I am very interested in Claire's comment on Gaza. Many brave Berkshire Yeoman died on 19th April 1917.
As assistant curator of the Berkshire Yeomanry Musuem, I would be very interested in sharing information and photographs of that time with her.

We are based at the TA Centre in Bolton Road, Windsor. I can be contacted on 07976 964768.

Andrew French

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Richard_SM,

I do not think anybody else will find your plan Z even remotely possible. I for exmaple do not agree with the people of Afghanistan 'electing' the Taleban and choosing their own structure, which will basically mean a return to Medieval-time mentaliyty of oppression of women, stoning to death for transgressions such as being raped or converting to another religion. Most of all, I do not agree with your proposal to give money to such a regime, which will use them to fund a jihad for the establishment of a world-wide halifat. The NATO forces are in Afghanistan precisely because the rest of the world does not want practces such as stoning to death to be continued, even though you might think that being traditional is a sufficient excuse for them.

The problems we face today in Afghanistan relate to the lack of promised investment in the infrastructure and regional development for the people who live in poverty, which sadly encompasses the majority of the population. Military might alone will not defeat the Taliban and I thought that our Military and Politicians had learned some lessons from the mistakes of the Soviet Army of occupation in the 1980's!
If we had seriously invested in the redevelopment of the country after the defeat of the Taliban then we would be dealing with people who would be far less willing to take the money of the Taliban.

SO WHATS THE PLAN STAN?

This is not the first time the (UK) has been involved in combat operations in the Islamic Crescent, so this is nothing that the military of the (UK) does not have maps and prior military history concerning the region.

But the question must be asked by each tax paying citizen of the (UK), WHAT IS THE EXIT STRATEGY? What is the cost projected per annum, and the projected time of military involvement, whats the projected cost post military involvement, and then decide is it all worth it.

SOME THINGS ARE NOT WORTH DYING FOR!

AUGUST 20th is comming soon, demand answers from YOUR ELECTED OFFICIALS, and not canned, talking points from the American Empire.

OBAMA 拢 54.5 BILLLION POUNDS FOR WAR!

The Dollar should have been replaced as the international reserve currency, the American Empire continues the flagrant double standard set by the American Empires Federal Reserve which is not bound to the harsh term鈥檚 set the (IMF) International Monetary Fund, and are not forbidden to print more cash to support internal demand or WARS, thereby, (fueling inflation and undermine a country's financial stability) as the American Empires Federal Reserve does not answer to the international community and continues to print billion鈥檚 to stimulate the American Empires failing kick start of its economy and now funding of its WARS. Even though these steps (increase inflation) not only within in the American Empire, but with the dollar as the base currency devalues other countries assets holding currencies denominated in American Empire, dollars, economies to collapse, pulling the inflationary cycle higher on other national currencies, caused by American Empire central banks reserves, and Federal Reserve System.

CENTRAL ASIAN PIPELINE

(Af-Pak) War the reason

The entire reason why the 鈥淎merican Empire鈥� is in Afghanistan has nothing to do with terrorism and everything to do with natural resources, in this case (NG) natural gas from Turkmenistan which is rich in hydrocarbons and the building of the 鈥淐entral Asian Pipeline鈥� system transporting (NG) across Afghanistan to the ports of Pakistan, Karachi, and round the globe in (LG) Liquid Gas from, to waiting markets, with a branch line to supply the needs of India.

The Russian Federation Support

Now, the 鈥淎merican Empire鈥� believes that the Russian Federation is willing to provide assistance in the (Af-Pak) War against Islam due to its fear of the Islamic threat posed to its boarders, and that could not be farther from the truth. The real reason is than in the end The Russian Federation knows that the 鈥淎merican Empire鈥� can never hope to win, as it will be generations of warfare, and will bring down the 鈥淎merican Empire鈥� economically, and be its second Vietnam, placing Turkmenistan back under the entire Sphere of the Russian Federation along with the 鈥淐entral Asian Pipeline鈥�. The Russian Federation is in a win/win situation, the 鈥淎merican Empire鈥� leaves it obtains the 鈥淐entral Asian Pipeline鈥�, the 鈥淎merican Empire鈥� stays and fights, it will lose, both militarily and economically, and the Russian Federation still wins. The losers will be those with large case reserves of 鈥淎merican Empire鈥� Treasure Bill鈥檚 and Dollars, worthless pieces of paper.

SELLING THE (AF-PAK) WAR!

Buying the (20th) August Election

Now, what we have here are a lot of Pentagon Propagandist from the American Empire selling the (Af-Pak) War, and the (UK) United Kingdom, and the elections of (20th) August are the target, without British Armed Forces the (Af-Pak) War is a non-starter, the American Empire has to pull out every stop, and pay any price to purchase the election and make no mistake about that, without the (UK) purchased support, it remains the American Empires War on Islam.

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(Af-Pak) War the reason

The entire reason why the 鈥淎merican Empire鈥� is in Afghanistan has nothing to do with terrorism and everything to do with natural resources, in this case (NG) natural gas from Turkmenistan which is rich in hydrocarbons and the building of the 鈥淐entral Asian Pipeline鈥� system transporting (NG) across Afghanistan to the ports of Pakistan, Karachi, and round the globe in (LG) Liquid Gas from, to waiting markets, with a branch line to supply the needs of India.

The Russian Federation Support

Now, the 鈥淎merican Empire鈥� believes that the Russian Federation is willing to provide assistance in the (Af-Pak) War against Islam due to its fear of the Islamic threat posed to its boarders, and that could not be farther from the truth. The real reason is than in the end The Russian Federation knows that the 鈥淎merican Empire鈥� can never hope to win, as it will be generations of warfare, and will bring down the 鈥淎merican Empire鈥� economically, and be its second Vietnam, placing Turkmenistan back under the entire Sphere of the Russian Federation along with the 鈥淐entral Asian Pipeline鈥�. The Russian Federation is in a win/win situation, the 鈥淎merican Empire鈥� leaves it obtains the 鈥淐entral Asian Pipeline鈥�, the 鈥淎merican Empire鈥� stays and fights, it will lose, both militarily and economically, and the Russian Federation still wins. The losers will be those with large case reserves of 鈥淎merican Empire鈥� Treasure Bill鈥檚 and Dollars, worthless pieces of paper.

King David H. Betray 鈥淯S鈥�

King David H. Betray 鈥淯S鈥�, the Butcher of Islam, and his staff have been referred to as the cream of the crop do to each having a (PhD.), meaning they when to college all the way and are able to write a thesis paper, good for them, all it means is they know how to PILED HIGH AND DEEP, they are book warriors. Now, the warriors they are coming up against are not book worm warriors they are intuitive warriors, they many never have learned how to read a book, and learned the Koran by Wrote, but they know their lands and they know their enemy, they know how he thinks, they know before they act what that action will be, then take their enemy to their battle ground and fight them on their terms. One of the greatest warriors of all history led (2) two American Armies with college educated officers around and around, was a College of Hard Knocks, Chief of the Chiricahua tribe of the Apache Nation GERONIMO. King David H. Betray US will fight by the book, More Money, More Time, More Troops, and Mission Creep, and his enemy will survive off the terrain, take their time, use fewer Islamic Freedom Fighters apply superior tactics, while adjusting to the mission, with patience, fortitude, love of their land, trust in their leaders, and faith in their God, and when they enter Paradise yet another Islamic Freedom Fighter will step up to take their place, day after day, week after week, year after year, decade after decade, never ending., Bet on it!