Paisley signs the Good Friday Agreement
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William Crawley | 20:19 UK time, Monday, 21 April 2008
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Comment number 1.
At 21st Apr 2008, allybalder wrote:Great William!
Heard that on ³ÉÈËÂÛ̳ Radio Ulster this evening
Just commenting to test the time as your time 08:19pm appears correct!
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Comment number 2.
At 21st Apr 2008, jovialPTL wrote:. . . but look at your comment's time allybally ...
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Comment number 3.
At 21st Apr 2008, allybalder wrote:and yours!!
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Comment number 4.
At 21st Apr 2008, jovialPTL wrote:Exactly ... there's a problem ...
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Comment number 5.
At 21st Apr 2008, allybalder wrote:PTL
I couldn't see my time untill after I posted!
The fault has been noted days ago!
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Comment number 6.
At 21st Apr 2008, aaronsc wrote:Hi all
We are trying to sort the comment time problem, honest! I'm hopeful there'll be a solution by the end of Tuesday.
Aaron Scullion (³ÉÈËÂÛ̳)
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Comment number 7.
At 21st Apr 2008, petermorrow wrote:³ÉÈËÂÛ̳, I wouldn't worry about being only an hour or so out. According to this report, Paisley's out by a lot more than that.
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Comment number 8.
At 21st Apr 2008, allybalder wrote:Pete
When you realise that the YEC's are out by 5bn yrs I suppose an hour is neither here nor there!
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Comment number 9.
At 21st Apr 2008, davidjagnew wrote:On the *real* good friday there was no agreement just God's eternal decree!
David Agnew
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Comment number 10.
At 21st Apr 2008, petermorrow wrote:allybalder
So the earth is 5,000,006,000 years old?
That's sort of exact, don't you think!
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Comment number 11.
At 21st Apr 2008, allybalder wrote:pete
what's your estimate?
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Comment number 12.
At 21st Apr 2008, allybalder wrote:David - M9
Sorry - don't understand you comment.
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Comment number 13.
At 21st Apr 2008, petermorrow wrote:allybalder
My estimate?
Well, given that there’s a good theological case to suggest that day 7 lasted the whole way through to the resurrection, I’m not putting my money on 6 days.
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Comment number 14.
At 21st Apr 2008, davidjagnew wrote:Simply that the "good friday agreement" was supposed to be an agreement about peace.
On the real good friday God made real his plan for making peace between himself and his people.No agreement needed.
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Comment number 15.
At 21st Apr 2008, allybalder wrote:I would object to the name 'Good Friday Agreement'
Belfast Agreement is the proper name and it was just a coincidence that it was settled on the Passover and gods were not involved!
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Comment number 16.
At 22nd Apr 2008, MarcusAureliusII wrote:Oh, oh, oh, oh, Mister Paisley, Mister Paisley sir, could you please please, please sign my autograph book? It would mean so ever so much to me and my wife and children. W'eve been fans of yours ever since my wife and I were children ourselves. That's right, just sign on that line right THERE!. And thanks ever so much Mister Paisley, we will remember you for the rest of our lives for this.
(.... What a maroon! :-)
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Comment number 17.
At 22nd Apr 2008, jovialPTL wrote:He's DR Paisley.
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Comment number 18.
At 22nd Apr 2008, MarcusAureliusII wrote:jovialPTL
He may be DR Paisley to you but to those of us who know him well he likes to be called just plain ole "Paise" :)
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Comment number 19.
At 22nd Apr 2008, _CC_ wrote:JoviaPTL
Paisley's use of the title 'Dr' derived initially from a 1954 qualification from the (outlawed ) American Pioneer Theological Seminary in Rockville, Illinois. Later this was somewhat legitimised by an honorary Doctor of Divinity degree awarded by Bob Jones University, a fundamentalist Christian but unaccredited college in Greenville, South Carolina.
its a bit of an insult to anyone with a "proper" Phd to insist on calling this man a DR
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Comment number 20.
At 22nd Apr 2008, Dylan_Dog wrote:JovialPTL,
Mr Paisley is not "Dr" Paisley, indeed it is very insulting to those who went to genuine universities to earn genuine qualifications to call him so.
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Comment number 21.
At 22nd Apr 2008, petermorrow wrote:Re.
Mr./Dr. Paisley.
Maybe the Dr. bit refers to him being a Timelord. After all he was living in the past for long enough and then all of a sudden shot into the future.
BTW the full title he gives himself is................. wait for it................
The Rev Dr Ian RK Paisley, MP, MEP, Moderator of the Free Presbyterian Church of Ulster, Minister of Martyrs' Memorial Free Presbyterian Church, Leader of the Ulster Democratic Unionist Party, MP for North Antrim at Westminster and MEP for Northern Ireland in Strasbourg.
Although it probably needs updated a bit.
It would also be difficult to fit on a envelop.
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Comment number 22.
At 22nd Apr 2008, Dylan_Dog wrote:Goodness Peter-that's a bit of a mouthful!:-)
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Comment number 23.
At 22nd Apr 2008, heretical wrote:Poor old PTL. He doesn't seem to have a lot of luck attributing Ph.Ds to people. First it was Robin Greer and now it's Ian Paisley
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Comment number 24.
At 23rd Apr 2008, jovialPTL wrote:Actually Petermorrow, you are very OUT of date ... The First Minister's title is ...
The Rev. and Rt Hon. Dr Ian R K Paisley, PC, MP, MLA, DD.
Dr Paisley's DD is from Bob Jones University. It is honourary but BJU is now an accredited university in the US. So Dr Paisley is just as entitled to be called Dr as any Queen's University honorary graduate or Presbyterian Moderator.
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Comment number 25.
At 23rd Apr 2008, allybalder wrote:We've been here before!!
Recipients of an honorary doctorate do not normally adopt the title of "doctor". In many countries, including the United Kingdom, Australia, New Zealand, and the United States, it is not usual for an honorary doctor to use the formal title of "doctor", regardless of the background circumstances for the award.
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Comment number 26.
At 23rd Apr 2008, MarcusAureliusII wrote:The servants just call him "Mr. P."
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Comment number 27.
At 23rd Apr 2008, petermorrow wrote:PTL
"Actually Petermorrow, you are very OUT of date ... The First Minister's title is ... "
As I suggested I thought I was. However I got my information here:
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Comment number 28.
At 23rd Apr 2008, petermorrow wrote:PTL
The real problem with christian leaders flaunting titles and letters, real or imagined, is that it stands in sharp contrast to the one they seek to follow. Jesus, who did not seek equality with God but took on the nature of a servant.
I am not anti-intellectual or anti-knowledge but sometimes you get the impression that Dr. this and Prof. that have got more to do with ego than anything else.
I don't particularly want to throw an accusation like "Everything they do is done for men to see", (like signing a copy of the Belfast Agreement 10 years late) but sometimes I wonder.
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Comment number 29.
At 23rd Apr 2008, allybalder wrote:pete
despite my comment 25 where I pointed out most hon Dr.'s do not use the title
It WAS for charity!
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Comment number 30.
At 23rd Apr 2008, Dylan_Dog wrote:PTL
Bob Jones "university" is a joke and a glorified degree mill. It was also a racist/segregationist dump-views which were based on the Bible-believing opinions of it's founder. Do you not think that Mr Paisley could have done the decent thing and told Mr Jones where to shove his honorary "doctorate"? I mean Mr Paisley preaches to us about the evil of...line dancing! but being best buddies with a vile racist lowlife like Bob Jones..well that's ok!? "Beware of hypocrites and false prophets" PTL!
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Comment number 31.
At 23rd Apr 2008, petermorrow wrote:allybalder
"It WAS for charity!"
Indeed.
That would make a good caption on the photo on the linked newspage.
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Comment number 32.
At 24th Apr 2008, Peter wrote:I'm looking forward to Sean Crummy's new series. I'd love to see how he portays Brian Cowan (I'll bet he'll have something in of him singing !).
As for Paisley's docterate wasn't it Brian Faulkner who once referred to him the "demon doctor" ?
Still, I think "the big man" has mellowed over the years and the nature of his relationship with Mr McGuinness was something that no-one anticipated. It'll be interesting to see how Robinson handles the job.
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