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Eddie Mair | 05:55 UK time, Thursday, 19 October 2006

can explain why I got yesterday's newsletter at 19.47, there could be a Gordon Brown book in it for them. (An no I am not in the office right now...)

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  1. At 07:29 AM on 19 Oct 2006, wrote:

    Unbeknown to many, computers are not liveless boxes full of electronics. Tiny little creatures live and work inside. It is them who have to shift all the pointless information from one place to another. They do this by loading tiny little pick-up trucks and racing about like maniacs.

    The one carrying your newsletter stopped on the way to pick up a curry but got clamped because he had parked on a double yellow. Darn! He didn't have the money to pay the horrendous fee, as his account had just gone overdrawn. He knew he shouldn't have splashed out on that holiday to the CD-Drive with his girl-friend over from the admin machine on floor 5.

    He finally managed to borrow the money from a friend. However his took some time as his friend had accidentally got attached to a PM autoreply message and had ended up buzzing about like a fretful porpentine on the screen of a random newsletter subscriber.

    Unclamped, and ready to go, our friend jumped into his pick-up, and raced off without looking into the mirror. Without even noticing, he ran over a priceless news story that we will now never hear about.

    Never mind. We got that all-important newsletter, didn't we.

    Yours truly

    Regular Contributor Wolf

  2. At 07:33 AM on 19 Oct 2006, wrote:

    Okay, now this is getting worrying! If Eddie's already blogging before 6am, does this mean is going to be another day with an insane number of threads that we can't keep up with???

  3. At 08:28 AM on 19 Oct 2006, Lady Penelope wrote:

    Goo morning all an special thanks to those concerne about my welfare yesteray. I was inee
    (1) hungover. It mae me remember exactly why I' stoppe rinking in the first place, an
    (2) feeling guilty that (a) I' ha the rink in the first place an (b) blurte about it on here.

    So I went back to sleep after seeing the childre off to school then went for a two-hour walk on the beach to look for oyster shells. There weren't any. But it was so hot (hot! On 18 Oct!) that I ha to take my woollie off. The angly earrings staye on, however, as I o have stanars.

    And now I shall reinstate my fourth letters as, although leaving them out was funny (and a bit of a challenge) to start with, it is becoming worryingly easy. I blame r Hackenbush.

    Eddie - blimey. It's usually just us that's up this early. Have you already done today's show? Did it go out in the middle of the night? Will there be no ice at five to be seen on?

    BTW I thought yesterday's 100th blog thread was wonderful. There were some serious bits in there, NB, but on the whole it was a superb example of exactly why it's become so compelling. Three cheers for inspired lunacy. Intelligent grownups playing . . . what a joy!

    Now I must get dressed and find Small Daughter's eyeliner or there'll be tears before bedtime.

    xx
    Lady P

  4. At 08:44 AM on 19 Oct 2006, John H. wrote:

    Me thinks that either Eric has a stand in for his early blogs, or else he's worked out how to use some sort of "cron" command. Without being disrespectful, I doubt the latter - so I'm going for the "blog double" option.

    Just to show how simple this is, I'll tell you that the earlier comment from Fearless was actually me...

    As for the newsletter - can anybody ever explain why emails don't arrive at their intended destination at the expected time? I imagine that there was some sort of problem at the 成人论坛 mail server end (tho' it's only a guess) just because nobody appears to have received the mail before the evening. Since there must be dozens of different ISPs being used by newsletter subscribers, the common element for everybody is the at the 成人论坛 end. Of course, the Beeb might not run its own server, in which case it will be their ISP's servers. (Does this at least put me in the running for the Brown book, on the basis of "sterling effort"?)

  5. At 09:08 AM on 19 Oct 2006, OnTheLedge wrote:

    Hi Eddie!

    No, I'm not trying for a companion for the other Gordon ('though I do hope you find the right colour pen this time!) - I mustn't be greedy. I'm a bit surprised you got two copies, however. Did Jim Naughtie donate his copy? Or did Gordon hear about the previous jape?

    I'm intrigued by two things in the current blog:

    Why you are dropping your 'd's - have you been speaking to Lady Penelope? or is it because you're not yet fully awake?

    Secondly, why you are up so early? Some possible answers being:

    1) You're on a train;
    2) You're 'wireless' in bed
    3) You slept over in the studio
    4) You're an insomniac (commiserations if that is the case)
    5) You party-ed all night
    6) You set this up on some sort of 'timed' thingey last night (No explanations required, thank you!)
    7) You're doing this for a 'dare'
    8) You love us all so much that you woke early from a dream of blogging and had, just had, to get in touch.

    Am I close with any of these? Do let us know, please!

    (I'm not sure how that DO will work, I'm trying to be ever so HTML smart - and was really proud of your own expertise, Eddie, yesterday. We've all learnt a lot in the last 24 hours, haven't we?)

  6. At 09:10 AM on 19 Oct 2006, Anne P. wrote:

    Sorry John - I like Wolf's explanation better.

    Having worked in IT there had to be a better explanation for what went on than 'unexpected hardware failure', or 'user error'.

  7. At 09:19 AM on 19 Oct 2006, OnTheLedge wrote:

    I've just read Eddie de N's posting on yesterday's blog and fear that my earlier posting on this blog won't show the desired BOLD ITALIC for NO that I required.

    However, I have no way of altering this now (sob).

    Bear with me - HTML is still a mystery. And sadly we don't know what bloomers we've committed until our entries appear (and occasionally they don't, anyway. The Blog Submitter does lie!)

  8. At 09:32 AM on 19 Oct 2006, Hillman Hunter wrote:

    I'm still waiting for yesterday's newsletter. Can I have tomorrow's today to make up for it please?

    Good to see Eddie setting the 'early' agenda. Is he in training (I wonder) for a morning programme? Or is he perhaps checking the bus timetable, so he can travel to Leeds and become the new host of Countdown? Or was he up just to listen to the Shipping Forecast?

  9. At 09:35 AM on 19 Oct 2006, Kevin wrote:

    Eddie,
    Sorry to be dull and technical - can't help it, it's my job. Being technical that is, not being dull. Although some here in the office with me might argue the point.
    Anyway, if you take the email and look at the headers they will show you the route that the email took, from the BBc mailserver all the way to when it hit your ISP's mail server. Each entry is time stamped so you will be able to see where the hold up was. If you're using MS Outlook getting to see the headers might be a bit awkward but it can be done.
    Of course, the simple answer could be that you didn't check your email until 19:47!
    Hope that help. Now, about this post neo-classical endogenous growth theory, or would you rather I leave that for a future email?

  10. At 09:38 AM on 19 Oct 2006, OnTheLedge wrote:

    Having just read through later submissions on the 100th Blog and the one following, it is quite clear that there is a demand for a facility on this Blog to help us poor IT-amateurs to use the HTML tags to their fullest.

    So - Lissa - How about IT?

    Lissa - How about IT?

  11. At 09:38 AM on 19 Oct 2006, wrote:

    Now now, John H. It's not nice to impersonate other people. It was me (sorry, I) who posted earlier, not John H.

  12. At 09:39 AM on 19 Oct 2006, wrote:

    John H (4)

    I know my blog software has the option to set the time of the blog, I don't know if that controls when it appears though as my white coat for experimenting is still at the dry cleaners.

    If you can check the email headers you should be able to see the point at which the email got stuck, I didn't even get the mail so I think I need to resubscribe under an assumed name.

    Anyone here remember/used wordperfect 5.1? I found when I used to teach HTML that people with experience of this picked up the idea of using tag's for formatting much quicker.

  13. At 09:58 AM on 19 Oct 2006, Eddie Mair wrote:

    Thank you for those. We're looking into what went wrong. We've just sent a test newsletter-type email to subscribers. We'll see whether THAT gets there.

  14. At 10:09 AM on 19 Oct 2006, Stephen, Leader of STROP wrote:

    Trawled the message headers and found


    Received: (from majordom@localhost)
    by lists2.mh.bbc.co.uk (8.12.10/8.12.10) id k9IIKVTs000117
    for pm-outgoing; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 19:20:31 +0100 (BST)

    which to my mind reads that it was still bouncing around the 成人论坛 at 19:20:31 +0100 (BST)
    If you read between the lines you can see the stains from the curry Wolf mentioned
  15. At 10:12 AM on 19 Oct 2006, wrote:

    Does Eddie have a computer by his bed? Or did he bed down in the studio, after partying? Or has he not yet been to bed? He was not at my party last night, so guys, don't blaim me!

    Lady P(3),

    It was just one slip. We're all human, as my hangover is pointing out to me every heart-beat. Unfortunately, I've no beach locally to go on to have it blown away.


    Kevin (9).

    The newsletterl did stop somewhere in the 成人论坛's servers, following the date stamps - I checked yesterday, once the newsletter actually arrived - I'm an old fogie and proud of it, so I've no need to hide the "dull" factor.

  16. At 10:18 AM on 19 Oct 2006, OnTheLedge wrote:

    Eddie (re 5 followed by 13)

    No answer. Just like a politician.

    Is this fair?

    We feel we have a right to know. You probably disagree.

  17. At 10:19 AM on 19 Oct 2006, Mark Intime wrote:

    Good morning everyone.
    Wolf (1) failed to mention the Bidirectional Intercom Terrorist organisation whose aim is to reroute and disrupt selected email targets in order to cause chaos and blog jams. Members of B.I.T are fanatical and prepared to commit blogicide to achieve their anarchic aims. It appears that a number of Wolf's tiny creatures have been recruited recently and can be identified riding on the backs of worms and small wooden horses.
    Hope this helps.

  18. At 10:22 AM on 19 Oct 2006, Big Sister wrote:

    Time: 10.25
    Inbox: Empty
    Test Newsletter: Playing in Auntie's attic

  19. At 10:22 AM on 19 Oct 2006, wrote:

    I note (with interest) that Chris Evans, who has a wireless programme that starts at the same time as Eddie's (on a different network) also submuts worryingly early blogs, whilst waiting for the kettle to boil.

    More interestingly there seems to be no mention of HTML code on his blog. Is the obsession with italics and bold text peculiar to the 成人论坛 R4 audience in particular.

    Finally (on topic) I didn't receive the Newsletter at all.

  20. At 10:45 AM on 19 Oct 2006, wrote:

    Extracted from a friends blog - but thought I'd share it :-)
    ..............Oh, another update on MAMA (Madonna Adopts Malawian Affair): there's a rumour she's going to change the kids name to David Ritchie. Dave Ritchie. He'll either end up as a used car salesman, or turn into an It-boy and appear on I'm a Celebrity Get Me Out of Here in 2025.

  21. At 10:48 AM on 19 Oct 2006, Big Sister wrote:

    Eddie,

    Please don't let these technical issues get you down. Just wait for Lissa. She can climb down the tubes and do a de-block.

    We need you to be happy. You sound fed-up. This is not the real Eddie.

    Chill.

  22. At 10:51 AM on 19 Oct 2006, Big Sister wrote:

    Jonnie:

    What is submutting? Can we all do it? Does it involve climbing under dogs?

    BTW- there's been a hold up on the WW due to a lack of said item in this neighbourhood (rural Sussex - no, don't laugh). But I'll keep trying to find you one.

    Would a Whipless Walnut (or several of said nut) be an acceptable substitute?

  23. At 10:54 AM on 19 Oct 2006, Big Sister wrote:

    Oh, dear, Jonnie - I really wish you hadn't told me about this .... I've checked said blogsite out and - once I'd got over the shock of the mugshot - had to grapple with the horror of the blogs.


    HOW CAN IT ALREADY BE WENSLEYDALE,
    Chris Evans 18 Oct 06, 07:52 AM
    In bed, it鈥檚 dark outside, I am so snuggled up and cosy, I love it.
    Now here鈥檚 a turnip for the books. GIRL ON SOFA ALERT! A mate of mine came over for a drink and my monthly viewing of Arthur, the funniest and saddest and quietly cleverest film I know, anyways it gets to bed time and we鈥檇 鈥渂oth鈥 fallen asleep before the end. So she then fights me, not for the bed but for the sofa.
    鈥淵ou always give up your bed for me.鈥
    鈥淏ut you鈥檙e a girl and I really don鈥檛 mind the sofa.鈥
    Anyway she wasn鈥檛 having any of it and I was dog tired so, here I am and I presume there she still is. I鈥檒l just go and check鈥

    And so it goes on

    And as for the comments ....!

    I'm sticking to PM.
    I hope I haven't spoilt anyone else's day.

  24. At 10:59 AM on 19 Oct 2006, Stephen, Leader of STROP wrote:

    Big Sister,

    Should that be a Walnot Whip?

    ROFL :D

  25. At 11:16 AM on 19 Oct 2006, Big Sister wrote:

    Stephen LOS:

    While you're ROFL, perhaps you could look under the chair to see if the newsletter's hiding there?

    As for Walnot's, there are plenty of the nuts around (no, not referring to the blog) - it's the 'little cream volcano' that's the problem.

    Incidentally, I've found another review for said product, which makes for a really good read:

    Personally, I can't understand the hype!

  26. At 11:17 AM on 19 Oct 2006, wrote:

    Big Sis(22) "submutting"

    Stephen LoSTROP (23) "Walnot Whip"

    That's it, I am now officially the office nutter, having just burst out laughing for no apparent reason!

    Thanks both of you for brightening up what has so far been a pretty cr*ppy day catching up with all the stuff from the last two days...

    Now I'm back, I guess it's time for a sweetshop ruin. Place your orders, folks...

  27. At 11:19 AM on 19 Oct 2006, wrote:

    Unless the test newsletter is labelled "increase in sexual desire" it ain't arrived yet.

    Meanwhile, comment on "Axis of Evil joins Nukuler Club"

    xx
    ed
    Whoops! Now it's "I Want A One Night Stand!"

  28. At 11:20 AM on 19 Oct 2006, Anne P. wrote:

    Further inspection of the delayed email header shows "Precedence: bulk"

    Perhaps Wolf's little delivery men got too fat...

    or we did

    or there are too many of us.....

    Edie/Lissa,
    I think you should demand your/our proper level of precendence in the ether.

  29. At 11:21 AM on 19 Oct 2006, wrote:

    SUBMUTTING - interesting you should bring it up BS(20).

    Funnily enough it is vaguely related to sheep.

    In a paralell universe, there's a different version of Homer's Odyssey. Odysseus lands in the territory of the Cyclops, and along with his men gets caught in the cave of Polyphemus all the same.

    However, Polyphemus is a giant one-eyed sheep. Instead of hearding his own species, Polyphemus has a flock of mutts which he puts out to graze in the morning. Everything else is pretty much the same: giant sheep gets drunk, gets blinded, but then Odysseus and his men hang on to the undersides of the hounds to escape.

    The cunning action taken by them is generally referred to as submutting.

  30. At 11:23 AM on 19 Oct 2006, wrote:

    Thank you BigSister, and Stephen - still looking for Pluto, for your helpful comments. Perhaps if Eddie's Blog software had a spell checker, that no doubt Blathers does, I wouldn't have been under the dog.

    Anything with Walnots is fine :-) especially as I was concerned at the thought of you having an injection in the vicinity of my Walnuts.

  31. At 11:25 AM on 19 Oct 2006, Piper wrote:

    Eddie, at least you got it. Stop whinging. I've waited up to three days for mine befor now...

    Young Rupert's doing the best he can. Whether that's the "best he can" to send out the letter in a timely manner or, the "best he can" to delay it I'm not sure. But, either way, he's succeeded.

    I know I now qualify for Gordon Brown's book but PLEASE Eddie, don't send it. It's yours in more ways than you realise.

    I understand that when you'd "lost" the book the other day and subsequently found it on Ruperts desk, young Rupert had actually taken it to wrap and then give it to you for Christmas.

    Good thinking on his part.

    You had the book so clearly valued it. Rupert would therefore be giving you something you wanted and missed would be overjoyed to see again (?!) and by his actions, Rupert would be saving the necessity of another book reprint and thus a tree.

    I've heard the only reason his ploy failed is that no-one in the department had Christmas wrapping paper to hand. Ah well, a couple more weeks should resolve that problem for him...

  32. At 11:29 AM on 19 Oct 2006, Dr Hackenbush wrote:

    鈥淭ime for a sweetshop ruin鈥 ?!
    Won鈥檛 it be your teeth that get ruined?

    (13) I haven鈥檛 received any test pressings so far...

    SB28

  33. At 11:33 AM on 19 Oct 2006, wrote:

    Wolf (28)

    Eddie wasn't telling fibs when he said that Melvin Bragg subscibed to the Newsletter then.

    Are you Melvin (in disguise) Please tell us ?

  34. At 11:46 AM on 19 Oct 2006, DTs wrote:

    Re: Early blog.
    Anyone keeping a regular eye (or vigil) on the webcam knows what鈥檚 going on 鈥 he never leaves the studio. Obviously after a while all sense if time is lost

    Incidentally, did * ****'* **** ** ***k mean I didn鈥檛 know where to look? Or am I just
    revealing myself as the one that didn鈥檛 get the joke?

    How does one shed a punt, anyway?

  35. At 11:57 AM on 19 Oct 2006, wrote:

    Is 'Shedding a punt' what the Irish did a few years back ? Or something I did on the River Cam a few years back!

  36. At 12:48 PM on 19 Oct 2006, Big Sister wrote:

    Groan - Oh Jonnie, you're really going 'downriver' now!

    Poor Pluto! He isn't a sheep dog by any chance is he?

    Glad the larks are keeping the blog alive.
    No sign of Eddie recently - I reckon he's got the hump. (Or perhaps blogging with Chris E?)

  37. At 01:48 PM on 19 Oct 2006, Kevin wrote:

    I've just been discussing this with a mate over lunch at a very pleasant little pub and he wanted to know who on earth would be interested in Gordon Brown's book.
    Well, it's my daughters birthday next Saturday, and have YOU any idea what to buy a thirteen year old girl?

  38. At 04:29 PM on 19 Oct 2006, Sue-Sue wrote:

    Eddie dear have you been up all night concerned over yesterdays newsletter?
    Get some rest, we want you on fine form in half an hour!
    PS Only the "interim" explanatory one so far today, not the kosher one!

  39. At 05:05 PM on 19 Oct 2006, wrote:

    Perhaps the problem is that the email is sent by Nobody (nobody@localhost). If only Somebody would take responsibility for the email then perhaps Everybody could have email delivered on time.

    I must add that the 成人论坛's little men run much faster than some that I have come across recently. I recently had one email that had sat at the side of the road in one of the country's bigger ISP's system for 5 days!

    The worst sort of email is where the delivery man drops half of the message, and only picks it up a few hours later. That can realy mess up your computer while it waits.

  40. At 05:35 PM on 19 Oct 2006, Gavin wrote:

    Could the same gremlin have caused today's e-mail to be delivered without a subject-line?

    This may well have caused the dumping of the message into millions and millions of 'spam' boxes, never to be read.

  41. At 06:36 PM on 19 Oct 2006, nigel wright wrote:

    listerning to the Bishop who seemed concerned that children might be frightened at the masks.
    Was wanting to ask shops to give more choice.
    As a christian there should be no choice don't do
    Haloween. Witches celibrate this day and it is evil.

  42. At 07:49 PM on 19 Oct 2006, Eamonn wrote:

    Nigel (41), what's "celibrate"? Interesting cross between "celebrate" and "celibate"? I'll certainly be giving that a go at Hallowe'en, so thanks for the inspiration...

  43. At 09:18 PM on 19 Oct 2006, Aperitif wrote:

    Eddie frogging from his bed... ah, happiness.

  44. At 03:56 AM on 20 Oct 2006, Lady Penelope wrote:

    O Appy . . . have you been quiet all day because you were busy Conjuring With That Thort??

    NB I have got up VERY early to catch Eric's first frog. And where is he? Not here, for sure . . .

  45. At 08:26 AM on 20 Oct 2006, wrote:

    Now now, Appy! I thought you were giving up your salacious thoughts about EM and other froggers :p

  46. At 11:12 AM on 20 Oct 2006, wrote:

    At last, the perfect solution: put out the newsletter in time for a morning delivery.

    Gives us all day to build up our hopes and expectations for the PM programme.

    ... Or was that the trailer for yesterday's PM that I received at 9:09 this morning?

  47. At 01:59 PM on 20 Oct 2006, Aperitif wrote:

    Lady P, Fearless, I apologise for my openness. I can attempt to give up sharing these thoughts - I can't help but have them, I 'm afraid.

  48. At 08:28 AM on 26 Nov 2006, kennedy eloho wrote:

    why is nigeria not enjoying the benefits of being a common wealth state? this question demands an urgent anwser

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