Edwards relishing tough tests ahead
Shaun Edwards is a man of contradictions.
This is a man who played through a admits that "everything hurts in the morning" and has a knee so destroyed by rugby that it'll have to be replaced with an artificial one.
He's also a chap who likes going to the ballet, speaks to his mum four times a day and enjoyed a trip with her to last time she was in town.
When you're a rugby league legend working in union, an Englishman coaching Wales and a Wigan boy living in a posh part of west London, you tend to enjoy upsetting people's preconceptions.
"You've got to push yourself," he tells me cheerfully. "If you don't, you just end up sitting around all day not doing much. It's too easy to slip into a comfort zone."
There's little danger of Edwards doing that in the near future. The next eight months will arguably be the toughest of his career so far.
On Saturday, Wales take on world champions South Africa, looking for only their second win over the Springboks in 102 years of trying. Later in the month come tests against the Wallabies and All Blacks.
Back in London, Wasps have won just one league game all season and are out of the EDF Cup. Then, come June, Edwards has the small matter of the to worry about.
"I'm not having nightmares about South Africans," he insists, despite Wales' two defeats on their summer tour.
"A little bit of stress in your life is good. People talk about it as a bad thing, but it can be very positive thing as long as it doesn't become destructive.
"Stress is what gets you up in the morning. It's the challenges that you face head-on throughout the day and your career and your life that define you. Stress is good."
If the school of hard knocks ever needs a headmaster, Edwards is your man. In his first 10 games at Wigan, as a 17-year-old prodigy, he had his nose broken, two teeth knocked out and facial wounds so extensive that he needed 15 stitches.
"I consider myself very fortunate," he says. "I look at my father, who was crippled playing professional rugby and is in considerably more pain than me. I would never complain."
Edwards' immediate concern is how Wales can build on their wonderful, unexpected Grand Slam triumph last spring. As befits a man who won eight consecutive Challenge Cup finals, he's acutely aware of what it takes to turn one-off triumphs into periods of domination.
The Wales team forged by Edwards and head coach Warren Gatland had two dominant characteristics: the capacity to soak up pressure without conceding tries, and the fitness to make game-winning scores in the last quarter.
To build on that, conditioning guru Craig White - another Wasps alumnus - has been recruited "to make the boys bigger and stronger and hopefully more explosive." The selection in Saturday's team of 6ft 5in 17 stone Jamie Roberts at outside centre can be seen in the same light.
Edwards, who in the past has borrowed training drills from American football and wrestling, is a coaching magpie. He had playing spells in Australia and New Zealand with the aim of filling out his rugby education, went on a coaching course in the latter and also spent unpaid time shadowing league great at Brisbane Broncos.
"I still speak to Wayne quite a lot on the phone," he says. "He's been absolutely invaluable to me.
"I speak with Warren a lot too. I've got a very close relationship with him. But people don't always understand how close a relationship you have with the video analysts with the team.
"I probably spend more time talking to Adam Grainger at Wasps and Rhys Long at Wales then anyone else. I probably speak to them four or five times a day, because you need to look at team formations and the real technical aspects of the game."
Edwards is coy about his ambitions after this year, claiming not to plan targets beyond the next few months.
To questions about one day coaching the country of his birth, he says: "A lot of things have happened in my life that have taught me to live by the day as much as possible."
Edwards is refering to the death of his younger brother Billy Joe, killed in a car crash five years ago. "I'm a big believer in living in the here and now. God willing I'll still be alive and well in four years' time, but what will be, will be."
If you should doubt the scale of his ambition, however, you should know that he's already managed to do what some people thought impossible - taught the Welsh to sing.
"I've only got one song - 'Saturday Night At The Movies' - but I do excel at it," he says.
"We sang it together in the dressing-room after we'd won the Grand Slam. One of the proudest parts for me was that the boys didn't need me to lead it any more - they sang it themselves. So not only had their rugby come on a bit, but so had their singing."
Comment number 1.
At 6th Nov 2008, metaspective wrote:Good luck to SE, Wales and the Lions.
Let's hope he can get involved with the English national team at some stage in the future.
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Comment number 2.
At 6th Nov 2008, sandcastlejim wrote:Edwards is a tough cookie. I respect the fella.
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At 6th Nov 2008, evomutant wrote:I wish he focus on his primary employer, Wasps, a little more. If We are still struggling come 6 nations time then he will have to make a decision, because he it inexcusable to use Waps as time filler between Wales commitments, as seems to be the case at the moment.
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At 6th Nov 2008, steviegen wrote:Fair play to Edwards he is a "Man of Steel" without a doubt. A great motivator a learner and a seeker of excellence. I dont believe he is using Wasps as a time filler, I do believe his methods have a short shelf life and Wasps are discovering this - one or other will have to give at some stage or Wasps need to bring in someone above Edwards so that he can concentrate on the International duties. GOod luck to SE whatever the futire brings and I do hope he gets the chance to do the England job but if Jonno is as succesful as I think he will be it wont be for some time.
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At 6th Nov 2008, Blub66 wrote:I think it a little naive and reactionary to assume that Wasps are struggling because of Edwards' responsibilities with Wales.
My understanding is that his duties with Wales do not affect his time at Wasps, as his famous appetite for work allows him to do both.
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Comment number 6.
At 6th Nov 2008, aber-fan wrote:As far as I know, Shane is contracted to Wales until the next world cup - so I'm not sure what is meant by him being 'coy' about what he will be doing after this year. He seems to be a man of his word, so I don't believe he'd break his contract, even if England come calling.
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Comment number 7.
At 6th Nov 2008, IanLenagan wrote:Shaun is indeed contracted until the world cup.
Then, the lure and call of coaching the biggest name in World Rugby, and his home town club.................Wigan Warriors, will be too hard to turn down.
Wigan Rugby League Football Club and the fans are getting ready and prepared for the return of their Messiah.
Wigan awaits you Shaun.
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At 6th Nov 2008, alex_lewis wrote:Shaun is obviously a great coach I mean for Wales to conceed only 2 tries in 5 games in the six nations is outstanding before SE and WG came we looked quite poor but i think if he decides to stay wales will only get better and progress further in international rugby
Hopefully we can prove this by beating the Springboks this coming Saturday
come on Wales !!
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At 6th Nov 2008, piddlepoddle wrote:Edwards' methods and tactics have a short shelf life because when his team is using them he's developing the next ones. he never stands still, always moving forward. He's the best coach working in rugby- the wasps fans should have a little more patience, he has earned it.
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At 6th Nov 2008, Tom Fordyce wrote:Given how much he soaks up from different situations and experiences, there's an argument that his gig with Wales could actually benefit Wasps. I can't believe the Six Nations, last summer's tour of South Africa and these forthcoming autumn tests won't have taught him a whole heap of new stuff.
It's interesting what the players at Wasps say about him - all fulsome in their praise. Mind you, would you have a pop at someone with a face and reputation like his? Lordy...
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At 6th Nov 2008, beaker wrote:You can not blame Wasp's bad start on his role with Wales. To my knowledge only in the past 13/14 days have the welsh squad been together this season. If Wasp's were flying high no doubt it would be because of his role with Wales. That argument holds absolulty no weight with me.
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Comment number 12.
At 8th Nov 2008, littlehambone wrote:Why would SE goback to a backwater like Wigan or in fact the poor relation Rugby League
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At 8th Nov 2008, allypieman wrote:Wigan a backwater - maybe - But undoubtedly the greatest name in the world of rugby in either code. Shaun will return, it's in the blood!
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Comment number 14.
At 9th Nov 2008, oldartlover wrote:Oh Ianlanagan (7), why is there always some leaguie like you who invites sneering, provocative comments from one of the more immature posters (littlehambone (12))? We then get others like allypieman rising to the latter's bait, and then making claims that are easily challenged. 'The greatest name in the world of rugby in either code'? Delighted as I am to follow Edwards' success with Wales, he's not yet had time to achieve much in world union; and as for league, there will be a couple of dozen Australians at least who would make a strong case against him being 'the greatest name'.
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