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15th
March 2002
Raleigh Leaves Nottingham
Nottingham has always been closely associated with Raleigh Cycles.
It's factory on Faraday Road was once the biggest producer of cycles
in the world. Now the company is to pull out from the city completely.
This follows a series of takeovers and shake-ups that has for the
past couple of years been wresting control away from its home town.
Most people in my age group would have been the proud owner of a Raleigh
bike (the lucky ones owning Choppers and Grifters). Later in adult
life, I spent several years working with the company; designing product
catalogues, maintaining the website and producing interactive CDs.
We've already witnessed the demise of the coal industry in the region
and I know that things need to move on. But I suspect that like the
Coal Industry in Mansfield and North Nottinghamshire, our rich industrial
heritage will be buried and forgotten.
Paul Fillingham
Nottingham |
15th
March 2002
Raleigh
Whilst I am very saddened by the closure of the Raleigh factory I
do object strongly to MP Graham Allen pointing the finger at the allotment
holders in Bulwell who have been fighting to hold on to their allotments.
He said in a recent interview that the action by the allotment holders
had been the final straw. Rubbish, Raleigh have admitted that advances
in cycle manufacturing techniques abroad have led to cheap imports
which Raleigh cannot compete with. Raleigh must be partly to blame
in that they haven't addressed this problem to any great degree. However,
if the blame is to be placed anywhere then it must be placed with
the Government, who Mr Allen represents. They have done nothing to
stem the flow of cheap cycle imports into this country. Perhaps they
should've taken a leaf out of the Americans book who, in times of
ecconomic downturn, just close the doors to imported goods. No, Mr
Al! le! n, please don't use the allotment holders as scapegoats.
Fatdog
Nott'm |
15th
March 2002
Raleigh Closure
As the author of 'Images of England - Radford' and with father mother,
uncle and grandfather both employed at Raleigh for many years during
my upbringing, I feel sad that this company is to close. Thousands
of local workers were employed at the Faraday Road, Wollaton Road
and Triumph Road sites in the 50s and 60s, and this is truly the end
of an era You can view my Raleigh and Radford webpages at www.radfordgallery.fsnet.co.uk
Chris Richards
nottingham |
15th
March 2002
Raleigh Closure
What a shame - I now live in New ZEaland and my very first job was
at Raleigh Industries in the Cycle Design office(my father also worked
there in the factory). I recently bought a new bike in New ZEaland
and was proud to say it was made by RAleigh (probably not in Nottingham
but at least my thoughts were pleasant). Yvonne (who I believe is
now a senior Manager) was a co secretary with me and I would love
to hear from her. I am coming home for a trip in April and will have
a nostalgic trip around the place if I can. I wish all the employees
all the best.
Rosalind Birtwistle
NEW ZEALAND |
14th March 2002
Raleigh Closure
raleigh management were always arrogant and believed that their products
would appeal to everyone. they went through a stage when they heavily
promoted their products - the result being that their image was greatly
improved. then they got complacent and decided to cut advertising
etc. and wasted all that good money by not continuing to promote the
product. manufacture abroad? crazy. not take advantage of its own
heritage - madness - no interest in industrial tourism - which could
well have saved the company. they are where they deserve to be, i
am very sorry to say. arrogance gets you no where.... i feel sorry
for the rest of the loyal employees who lived in hope.
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15th March
2002
16 and
17 year olds should they get the vote?
I dont know if anyone has mentioned this but, if a 16 - 17 year old
is working they have to pay NIC and they get taxed, yet they cant
vote on on who they want to do what with that money. What im saying
is they are paying taxese etc and not getting a say on who spends
it and on what. Now anyone sane can see that this is wrong. However
i dont think 16 - 17 year olds should get the vote. I can remember
having silly arguments about it at school when i was 16 and 17 and
you allways deffended the party your parents voted for. I think they
shouldnt have to pay any tax untill they are 18 cos its just fair.
Eskimo
3rd Planet from the Sun
14th March 2002
and
in reply...
If that is fair, then whilst you are 16 and 17, and not paying tax,
you cannot use the NHS, roads, college, council run facilities, since
you have not paid to do so.
Bill
Carlton
15th march 2002
and in reply...
In reply to "16 and 17 year old should they get the vote?" You have
made a tenuous link between age, paying taxes and working for pay.
If I may I would point out that many children of an age younger than
16 pay tax albeit via VAT every time they buy just about any thing
they pay 17.5% VAT. Some children even work and earn large amounts
of money i.e. those that take part in films, advertisements television
programs they pay income tax, and they in some cases possibly earn
more than their parents. I ask would it make sense that say child
of 6 earning lets say 拢20,000 a year from their efforts in a film
or TV series have the vote? The ability to pay taxes does not indicative
of the ability to comprehend what the individual believes is best
for the society we all live in and make sensible decision on any topic
when presented with the facts. 18 years young is plenty early enough.
John Foster
Arnold Nottingham
8th
April 2002
another reply... young people and tax
If "eskimo"
had stayed at school a little longer, his grammar, spelling and punctuation
would have been considerably better.
Isolde
London |
12th
March 2002
Mess outside Nottingham Trent University
Every time i walk past Nottingham Trent University, i am appalled
by the amount of rubbish that is swept acroos the street (Mainly Shakespeare
street) This isn't just litter being dropped - its a University approved
scheme where some muppets hang around the university handing out flyers
to the uniterested passers by - hence the sea of old cardboard and
paper flyers everywhere. I am concerned firstly with the amount of
paper that gets wasted and secondly the poor people who have to clean
this up. The young people at universitys expect our support - but
why should we give it when they choose to behave so anti-socially
towards out planet.
Bill
Halifax |
8th
March 2002
what ever they do to stop hoax 999 calls some idiot will find a way
of getting round all the checks. bring back hanging they won't do
it again!!
rob
nottingham |
Last
reply... 12th March 2002
Hello, To stop hoax emergency calls why don't they give people
a pin code to verify that the call is genuine. To apply for a pin
code they will have to register there home address and home phone
number, simple as that. Job done.
Trev Moore
and in reply...
12th March 2002
The idea of a pin is not practical. What happens to people with mobile
phones? People who make emergency calls from other people's homes
- do they use their own code or the house address they are calling
from? Public payphones - how do they work. To register there home
address, they could send in anyones details and still carry on.
Bill
Carlton
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8th
March 2002
See You Next September
Hi there, I think Nottingham is a very nice city. I have been to Nottingham
once last year. But I will come to Nottingham next September and go
to school there. Can you tell me sanything about Nottingham in general
and the schools?? That would be very nice....
Jana (16 years)
Bielefeld, Germany
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6th
March 2002
skateboarding
instead of of opening "skate areas" that get vandalised and misused
why not put the money from these small projects into opening a indoor
park that would charge a small fee for matenence. this would be used
by serios skaters like myself and allso inliners and BMXers. iv noteced
small ramps spotted around nottingham but they are placed in the worst
possible places and arnt really that good.
sk8 chic
nottingham, england |
6th
March 2002
Speakout
I see we have reached the real levels of conversation now. Dog mess
on a pavement, this is really a valuable use for forums
Bill
Carlton |
Last
reply...8th March 2002
Hunting
Hi, My point of view on hunting may be controversial, but I think
its right. Most people are against hunting because it kills foxes
in a cruel, but natural, way. I am a very keep zoologist and conservationist,
and the way I see it is that if hunting were to be banned we would
lose the whole of the fox population within a year. Why? you ask.
Because the hunt is the foxes protection. Without it the farmers have
no option but to carry out the culling themselves, which is uncontrollable,
and they wouldn't hesitate to wipe out populations on their land.
Now decide, would you prefer a very small percentage of foxes to be
killed in a natural way, which actually helps the species because
it removes the sick or diseased ones, or would you prefer none at
all, because that's what will happen if hunting were banned. The choice
is yours. I personally will be marching proudly at the next Liberty
and Liv! el! ihood march in the knowledge that I'm giving the fox,
and the countryside the best possible support.
Henry
Shrewsbury, Shropshire
and in reply...
In
reply to "Hunting" by Henry. I do not think your view is controversial,
quite the reverse you support a view which has been held for many
years, too many. To suggest that killing of another animal is an acceptable
means of enjoying your self and also calling it hunting. Hunting indeed,
where a pack of hounds and many people on horse back dressed in red.
Chase an animal over miles of country side till the animal is so tired
it can no longer run, then the hounds tear it apart for their human
companions to gleefully watch the terrified animal finally die in
total terror. This you call cruel and natural, yes I agree its very
cruel as for natural how is it natural? Pack of hounds several riders
and horse's natural? Please do not try to hide behind the comment
that if we do not hunt the fox as we do the farmers will kill them
all, that being the case why do that not do it now? You argument is
basically flawed and holds little substance. I personally would not
and in fact could not carry out any job that required that I assist
in any way the unnessersary killing of an animal. I find little to
be proud of in marching telling people of what you appear to support.
As for your march well I would call it a display of mans arrogance
of being superior by his own definition, in the animal world. I personally
hope that when this free vote happens, if it happens, that all fox
hunting will be banned.
John Foster
Arnold Nottingham |
4th
March 2002
England's green and pleasant land?
Why oh why do people have trouble using bins for their rubbish and
cleaning up after their dogs? It seems to be the norm to dump it wherever
the fancy takes you. As I walk around I spot rubbish everywhere and
have on occasions picked up something someone has thrown down and
given it back to them. As a smoker I extinguish my cigarettes properly
and either put the butt in the bin or take it home. Chewing gum should
be binned too. PLEASE USE THE BINS PROVIDED OR TAKE YOUR RUBBISH HOME
WITH YOU! Are there really so many irresponsible dog owners? On my
few minutes walk to and from Bulwell station I spend most of the time
dodging dog mess. It is a health hazard. As a responsible former dog
owner this really gets my goat. PLEASE CLEAN UP AFTER YOUR DOGS! Both
offences carry large fines. Wouldn't it be better to be proud of Nottingham
than to be ashamed of it? If everyone did their bit who knows we may
save a bit of Council Tax to spend on vital services.
D
Bulwell |
2nd
March 2002
Posting dates in speakout
Thank you 成人论坛 Nottingham for your response to my suggestion to put
the date of the postings with each contribution . I trust that all
the persons involving themselves in any discussion will agree that
this information does not in any way, affect the privacy of their
statements, or opinions. Now will "ANONYMOUS" please adopt a real
contact name, even I use one, and quite a few know my true identity,
which I do not mind, because I do not, and would not post gutter-talk.
b.clyde
Nottingham |
2nd
March 2002
All Areas of speakout
I have over the past few evenings brought up most of the present and
archive pages of speakput. There are quite a few that I would reply
to , sometimes with valuable and helpful information. BUT I cannot
do this with any intent because I don't know the date of the posting.It's
no good replying if the posting is over a month old. Perhaps these
postings have been resolved in context, or the originator has given
up hope. So please, will someone tell me why a date of the posting
cannot be given ? Or why isn't it ? I am b.clyde of Nottingham 1/3/02
b.clyde
Nottingham
This is a very
good point. We post up emails with the most recent at the top of the
page. However, we will adopt this policy from now on.
Any other suggestions are welcome.
成人论坛 Nottingham |
broxtowe
funding
The article regarding the typing error shows a picture purporting
to be a street in Broxtowe Borough. It is however a street on the
Broxtowe Estate in Nottingham City. The two are entirely different.
Broxtowe Resident
notts
Many apologies for the mistake.
成人论坛 Nottingham |
In reply
to continous remarks about beggers
I can't beleive that so many people have commented so negatively about
the beggars on our streets. Sure, in an ideal world there wouldn't
be any begging or crime etc, but we don't live in an ideal world!
Instead of hurling abuse, try hurling a couple of quid in their direction
and think yourself lucky that you're not in the same, unfortunate
position. Sadly, Nottingham will never be the No.1 city, as long as
a small percentage of it's citizens are as narrow minded as this!
Adrian
Nottingham
and in reply...
3rd March 2002
I would like to ask Adrian, from Nottingham why i should give beggers
money and think myself lucky that I'm not in their position? I have
had a far from easy upbringing (as have many), and I work hard in
a job that I don't particularly enjoy, for a relatively small amount.
I have taken jobs that i hate and lived in rented accommodation that
leaves a lot to be desired. These people are quite capable of signing
on, and a lot of them do! They are the only one's who can pick themselves
up and get themselves out of their situation, homeless people do not
have to be these 'poor unfortunate people'. Big Issue sellers are
attempting to get themselves out of the situation. People who sit
by cash point machines with their dogs asking for money are intimidating
people and in todays society it can be quite unnerving to have a strange
man asking for money from you when yo! u'! re at the cash point! There
are many jobs to be had if you are not choosey, and for those homeless
people who are fleeing violence or abuse there is help out there,
but only they can ask for it. I feel angry when people ask me for
money in the street, they do not know my situation, I do not have
very much money and when I want to treat myself I should not be made
to feel guilty. I am always willing to help someone in need, just
not by giving handouts.
Rebecca
Nottingham
and in reply...
3rd March 2002
I agree with Rebecca as the previous individual is forgeting one keyword
"choice" people should not feel obligated to give if they do not wish
to. I am speaking as a person who has been a rough sleeper myself,
lived in all the homeless hostel except the YMCA.With a social security
in place and if they choose to sell the big issue why should I have
to give. With that notion it makes what is the next step? That like
saying Im desperate for sexuaul intercourse and if I ask a women she
must give it me as I am not getting any due to the masculization of
poverty and if they don't their just being mean. Once I put in that
context does the person still agree that we all must give? It is choice
is the keyword to ne and being not reasonable is perhaps another.
Everyone ask yourself in any situtuation when you have been reasonable
just to please someone else did you later wish you hadn! 't! ? Don't
you feel when were reasonble it was a form of control used by that
person to getting to do what they wanted you to do?
Mr S T Broderick
Canning Circus |
should
mansfield be brewed out of town?
I was there to the last and let me tell ya it was grim, all the bumf
you hear about it being the same water,malt,hops, recipe etc. (with
the job I did I know what I'm talking about:)! )is just that, it is
basically a marketing ploy in my mind and we were all sold down the
river,(thanx!) alot of good men lost employment in which for Mansfield
was a stable line of business compared to others. Yeah I know We all
should be happy with our lot in life but I for one would'nt drink
the stuff again... Anon
Anon
Mansfield |
nature
trail
i walked the nature trail through wilford and compton acres. it was
overgrown in one section and covered by dog muck and litter on the
rest of it. there may be rats living amongst it too.
robert
nottingham |
England's
Royal Family
According to several international reports recently published, your
"Royal Family" is undeniably re- sponsible for many Geo-Political
conflicts, which are global in scope and span a period of several
cen- turys,promoting universal fascist policies. Is it true? It has
also been reported that the "British Crown" would never allow a consti-
tutional democracy to exist in Britain - only democratic reforms within
a parliamentary system. Is it true?
ConClive
Florence, MS USA |
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Fun Fair
in Market Square
Why oh why has Nottingham city centre been cursed with this eye-sore?
There is nothing i find more un-aesthetically disturbing. If the
Goose fair wasnt enough for the residents of Nottingham, then why
cant they take themselves to one of the theme parks in the surrounding
area? Its not that i disagree with fun fairs, but when it involves
blocking up the market square with loud music blaring out and attracting
the undesirables of society then i do have my concerns. How long
is it there for?
Bill
Halifax, England
reply to
Bill, Fun Fairs
I couldn't agree more Bill.
Anthony
Nottingham
reply to
Bill, Fun Fairs
Don't be a killjoy Bill. Just because you seem unable to enjoy yourself,
it doesn't mean that we should all share a sad life like yours
Bill
Nottingham
reply to
Valentine's Fair
In reply... The Valentine鈥檚 Fair, which was sited on the Old Market
Square over the recent half-term week, is a much smaller fair than
Goose Fair and more suited to this space than the Forest Recreation
Ground as it enables more people access to the event. Valentine鈥檚
Fair has been operating since 1993 as a replacement for the Christmas
Fair, which is testimony to its popularity with both visitors and
showmen. Obviously, fairs are not to everyone鈥檚 taste, but the space
is also used for summer and Christmas craft markets and lots of
other activities throughout the year so, hopefully, visitors will
find something they enjoy.
Nottingham City Council
reply to
Nottingham City Council re: Fun Fair in Market Square
I am sure the council have put up and allowed this fair purely for
the enjoyment and pleasure of Nottingham's residents - i presume
the council are not making a nice little side earner from this?
Bill
Halifax, England
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I own a Pub
clock that has a history I am trying to confirm. Supposedly, Peter
Knight, a gunmaker made the case for this clock in 1912 when Carrington
st was widened. The casw was made from various woods coming from the
pubs that were taken down during the widening. If you might provide
me with any internet sites tht might help me in my quest for the true
history of this clock.
Tx
Jerry Lipar
Lomita, Ca. USA. |
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成人论坛 News:
- MMR Vaccine
成人论坛 News: - MMR Vaccine Despite constant reassurance to the public
at large that this MMR Vaccine is not harmful, parents still are
willing to put their children at risk, by not having them immunised.
I for one remember many of my friends when I was at school being
ill with one of these infections and in fact over my school years
3 children died from one of the three infections. I accept the concern
that as in all things there may be a possibility that some child
some where just may be affected by this injection. But there is
no evidence to support that view. If the parents care so much for
the well being of their children and their perceived possible effect
of the MMR vaccination why do they not pay for the single vaccine
under private medicine? The cost of such a vaccination would cost
a couple of packets of cigarettes or a few drinks in the local pub,
or perhaps these parents do not care that much? There is risk in
every thing we do, the trick is to minimise the risk, by offering
no protection to children is far from minimising the risk, its only
maximising the probable risk and all that means perhaps even the
dead of the child. Is that what we call parental care?
John Foster
Arnold Nottingham
MMR Vaccine
As a parent to a toddler due for the MMR I have opted for single
vaccinations. Finding a private clinic that was comparable to a
ghost hunt. The NHS helplines not being able to offer any alternative
advice and no main point of reference available for clinics that
do single jabs. I can relay the details for the clinic we attended
for anyone interested - e-mail me on salli_g@hotmail.com
(so as not to been seen as advertising on the 成人论坛 web site!). And
I can reassure John Foster of Nottingham (previous entry) that they
DO NOT cost the same as a packets of cigarettes or a few drinks
in the local pub... unless of course your cigarettes are of the
拢60 a go variety - plus petrol to get you there!
salli
London
Reply to
Salli re: MMR
I am amazed that you are unable to accept the facts and have chsen
to give your child a less effective form of vaccination. I do hope
taht if your child contracts andy of these diseases and infects
someone else's child you can live with your conscience. MMR is safe
- LOOK AT THE EVIDENCE not the mythology.
R Steadman
Matlock/Nottingham
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Bad
drivers
Just what is it about drivers in Nottingham? Here's a couple of tips;
the flashy orange things on the corners of your car are called indicators,
they're for letting other road users know your manouvering intentions,
try using them. On a similar theme, the bright amber thing on traffic
lights does not mean speed up and jump the lights causing others to
compensate for your complete stupidity and dangerous driving. I drive
through and across Nottingham and the County everyday with my job
and I've yet to make a single journey that hasn't involved avoiding
some incident with an 'ambler gambler'. Sort it out before you kill
someone...
MJ Maru
Nottingham |
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