A Church of Ireland priest has described Archbishop Alan Harper (pictured), the leader of his church, as a 'false teacher', following a speech by the archbishop which raised the possibility that emerging scientific knowledge may lead the church to change its traditional teaching on homosexuality. The Reverend Canon Clive West, formerly rector of All Saints', Belfast, and a former chairman of the Evangelical Fellowship of Irish Clergy, said today on Sunday Sequence that Archbishop Harper 'is speaking for himself, not for the church'.
In a heated exchange with the Reverend , director of spiritual formation at the Church of Ireland Theological College in Dublin, Canon West challenged his church leader's authority to teach following his comments on homosexuality. Here's an excerpt from our live discussion (listen in full here).
Clive West: He's a bishop -- he's a guardian of the faith. But the question is, is he guarding the faith or is he a false teacher?
William Crawley: What do you think?
Clive West: I think he's a false teacher.
Patrick Comerford: Well I think that's a disgraceful comment from you Clive, I really do ...
Clive West: It's not a disgraceful comment ...
Patrick Comerford: ... coming from a priest in the Church of Ireland.
Clive West: We are asked to search the Scriptures and Paul praised people who searched the Scriptures. And if Archbishop Harper is at variance with Scripture, then I don't follow Archbishop Harper ... I'm not in communion with him.
Patrick Comerford: He's not at variance with Scripture. He's actually asking the questions that need to be asked and asking them in charity. [ . . . ] There's no point in being a member of an episcopal church when you don't appreciate the role of the bishops, including the archbishop, in guiding us through a debate like this and helping us -- and that sort of language is not helpful as we try to approach this with a reasonable and rational and charitable approach. To use that language about the archbishop when we're trying to have a reasonable and a rational approach only actually ups the temperature and ups the scale of debate in a way that is unfair on people who are actually trying to guide the church through this.
Clive West: Well I don't think he's guiding the church. You guide the church when you guide the church back to scripture.
William Crawley: Clive, do you believe there are many clergy who would agree with you that your archbishop, your primate, is a false teacher?
Clive West: I think quite a lot would. It gives me no joy to say that. But I do believe if we search the scripture -- John, for example, in Second and Third John, praises the people for not welcoming certain false teachers into their congregation, and Paul again praised the people at Berea because they searched the scriptures daily to see if his teaching was correct. So we are at liberty to search the scriptures and see if Archbishop Harper's teaching is correct.
William Crawley: What we have here, in this speech, Clive, is a very carefully thought-through argument, drawing on 16th century Anglican theology, and building a case for the use of science and reason in how we view the scriptures and how we interpret the Bible. You would grant that Archbishop Harper is engaging in that kind of mature discussion with sincerity, wouldn't you?
Clive West: I think he is using Hooker ... to support his interpretation of Romans 1. But Hooker was very strong on tradition as well -- the tradition of the church. And you will know that the Bishop of Rochester is not going to Lambeth because some of the teaching that's around today is not in accordance with the teaching that's been around for two thousand years.