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Should we kill all the pigeons?

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12th August 2002
DON'T LITTER THEN!!!

i love any bird to bits. i love pigeons too. but although they carry disease, just KEEP AWAY from them. or DON'T LIITER in the first place otherwise there will be more and more. but it it wasn't for pigeons, then you have RATS to clear up the CRISPS and BREADCRUMBS on the ground! these pigeons would not have been invented if humans didn't spread so much LITTER and DIRT to give them these diseases in the first place. so it is OUR fault for bringing them. they have not done anything wrong. they just want food to survive and food for their own chicks. So either sort out your litter or live with them and their diseases.

sumo
taunton
12th August 2002
Pigeon Plague

The are where I live is being literally flooded by pigeons. As I live in the ground floor of a 4 storey apartment building I get a lot of defecation in my veranda. I have no possibility to use it as I risk to get really "dirty". As I have cats I am afraid that they get diseases from the pigeons "dirt". Can anyone give some advise on how to deal with this problem - keep the pigeons at distance or exterminate them? There are efficient methods I am sure.

Vitor Cordeiro
Carcavelos, Portugal
6th August 2002
pigeons

I don't have any problem with anyone who is a pigeon lover. Having them nest in every eve, and s--t all over every square inch of their home, on their automobile/s, side walks, windows, etc. Go for it. I would just like them to stay the H-ll away from my rooftop. I have put up plastic netting to keep them out of my eve's, hit them with a stream of water each time I see them, placed a plastic owl on the roof (this works if you relocate it once a week), but I still get them. Is there anything anyone else has tried that works. What about cats, do they do anything to help. I don't like cats but I'd take one of them over a pigeon.

Mike
Temecula, Ca.,USA
6th August 2002
wait but theres more

pigions come here because we built here they were and they adapt they create a mess they crap all over and you think thats bad stop thinking about your self look at mexico city its main cause of death dog crap lets shot dogs while were at it and then we can shot lumder jacks for thining the air and then lets imprison the pepole who drive cars the exaust gets traped in our atmosphere and will eventuly cook us there are holes in are atmosphere as big as the contanintal united states of america and youre woried about some bird craping that was here before you were born you are a moron.

neb rez
oshkosh USA
5th August 2002
Pigeons

I've kept pigeons as a boy and am now keeping them for the third time in my life. They make my life fuller and more relaxed. My birds are controlled, medicated and cleaned daily. I enjoy watching all birds fly :) My older neighbours appear to feel the same way about children as many of you feel about feral pigeons. Isn't it nice the rest of us won't allow them to follow through on their feelings;)

Brian Sears
Nanaimo B.C. Canada
3rd August 2002
pigeons

This is the first time I have read any comments on a website. I am shocked at how inarticulate and uneducated some of the population are (perhaps it is only those who have nothing better to think about than unpleasant ways of killing pigeons). It is a bird - for god's sake! Get out more, look at the night sky, do some meditation or better still be thankful that we live in such a beautiful and diverse planet.

Lesley
Glasgow, UK
2nd August 2002
Pidgeons

by the way ........... Craig you REALLY need some spelling lessons old son!! Hehe

Wondering whos mad
Local to where I live
2nd August 2002
Pidgeons

This sucks, you worry about pidgeons and seen forget we gotta get the homeless out of the doorways before we worry about pidgeons, be sensible and give the shotguns to the police. It's the likes of you that scare me, trigger happy loonys! Whats next? Gonna suggest an immediate cull on all non humans within a mile of the city centre?

Wondering whos mad
Local to where I live
1st August 2002
pigeons

wy doo peeple hoo rite aboyt pidjins nott yuse thar spel chekkers? orr ar thay ritin in pidjin inglish? persinly y tink az mosst pidjins rite beter inglish thann mosst umans, thay most bee thinkin wat ignirent pezts mosst umans ar end wat shud thay bee doin too git ridd ov themm!

Krisstofar
Rafenshayd, Knotinshamshayre

31st July 2002
pigeons

We have a large number of pigeons at my work location. We will trap and remove the birds. The birds have become a large problem do to the locations they have chosen to roost. The only remaining problem is how to dispose of the birds once they have been caught. Any real, knowledgeble suggestions.

D. L. Broumley
Seattle, USA

and the suggestions

1st August 2002
Killing Pigeons

Pigeons are inherently nasty creatures. They deficate on everything. If left alone, they can literally destroy a home or automobile. They are also stubborn. As a result, the only good pigeon is a dead pigeon. A .22 rifle works nicely, a .177 cal pellet rifle if your in the city.

D.S. Neal
Kentucky, USA

29th July 2002
Pigeons

While I must admit that pigeons are not my favorite birds, I do not advocate shooting them all. There are safe humane solutions to the problem. There are plenty of sites on the web with handy info from what kind of seeds to put in your birdfeeder that small birds like but pigeons don't, to items you can buy to make the eaves of your house or ledges of your building unattractive to these pests, like spike strips, plastic owls, etc. And as for the people who think this is inane chatter and we should all be debating world peace, sometimes the little things are just that important. If you are distracted by something in your immediate surroundings it is difficult to see the bigger picture. Besides, if we all sat around debating the fate of the world all day there would be no one around to do the really important things like growing our food, raising our children, educating them, policing our streets, nursing the sick, etc. So get off your high horse. What are you doing on the internet anyway? Shouldn't you be at the U.N. giving a speech or something?

michelle
Los Angeles, CA, USA
26th July 2002
How to get rid of the pigeons??

I work for a company and, we are facing a sitution which seems there is not end. We have pigeons *** on our products and floor. I am looking for suggestions or even solutions. Down in Brazil we are forbiden of killing pigeons. What should I do?? Ruin my business?? I need help!!!

Silveira, Luiz
Mogi das Cruzes - S茫o Paulo - Brazil
24th July 2002
Pigeons

Your U.K. HAS the answer to the pigeon problem! It is your PICAS organization. PICAS stands for Pigeon Control Advisory Service and they are really quite wonderful at www.picas.org Check it out!

Ann Dunbar
Grand Island Nebraska U.S.
22nd July 2002
peace

pigeons are great to our economy,cause they can deliver messages when all cars are broke down, they eat bugs.yes they might be a little messy but heck I have 4 pigeons myself and a very good friend of mine has over 500(i think).But please don't kill them off

Andrew Alverson
haltom Ft.worth Tx USA
22nd July 2002
Pigeons in nottingham

I imagine there have always been pigeons in Nottingham and I guess there has always been some debate about there usefulness. At least the posted comments are mostly amusing to read but I guess they don't really add to the solution. Make feedding them unlawful, use covered bins and let natural attrition take it's toll. Of course the carcasses of the dead birds will be a 'mite' irritating.

Deborah
Canberra Australia
20th July 2002
pigeons

so does rice kill them or not?
Anon
17th July 2002
Pidgeons

I have nothing against the pidgeon population,however, they are a nuisance when they decide to make their home your terrace. They do their droppings wherever and are just plain nasty. Does anyone have any idea how to eliminate these pidgeons from wrecking havoc in my terrace? What are their natural enemy, who are they afraid of. Any ideas?

Beverly
Bronx, NY USA
15th July 2002
Pigeons

While People bitch over the population of pigeons, People should worry about other conserns. Hate, murder, polution, rape, abuse. Maybe if some people put more effert in the health and safty of people and not not have concern about "rat with wings" Maybe this world would be peaceful.

Treva
Ohio
13th July 2002
How high

Does anyone know how high pigions can fly?
12th July 2002
pigeonism

well i feel a lot of people have digusting thoughts about our feathered friends. all they do is fly about and occasionly poo in places. People need to worry and debate about things that really matter like world peace, economy problems, the fact that my car can fit 8 people and a nun. this is blatently against the law so why isnt someone coming round my house to arrest me why??????????? because they are all debating about pigeons. (only joking a can fit about three and a small kebab) but if it were true think about it!!!!!!!!!!! pay more attention to the important things

larry
dudley
11th July 2002
As these revolting creatures are also known as RATS WITH WINGS I think that they should be kept controlled, the same way as we control other vermin, like rats and mice. I dunno how but Im sure someone out there knows. I was once hit in the face by a flying pigeon in the market square..I had a dreadfull blackeye and eye infection to go with it. If that had happened today there are enough accident claim centres to sue the pants off the council..is that what they really want??

Barb
Meadows, Nottingham

9th July 2002
pigeons

These aniamals should not be molested or abused by amateurs.They should be trapped and sent to Spain . There they would be given to a COLUMBAIRE, who would through them into the air. This would accomplish three things :

1)Remove bothersome pigeons from England.
2)Allow pigeons a fair chance to survive.
3)Give my friends and I some really interesting targets.

JERRY BLACKWELL
TEXAS USA

13th July 2002
Pigeons

Re: Jerry Blackwell's comments... The world could do with a lot less pigeons and also a lot lot less trigger-happy texans. You lot are more likely to shoot your own troops in the back (in a friendly way) than anybody from al qaeda.

eddie
Glasgow

9th July 2002
Pidgeons

As a child I enjoyed running into crowds of pidgeons which fleeted in the square as Moses into the Red Sea. My Nana (God bless her soul) used to ask me to catch one so I could take it back home and eat it as a pidgeon pie. Needless to say the hours spent luring pidgeons into my infantile grasp using Warburtons stale bread was all in vain. Keep pidgeons! Without them we would not have the everlasting dream of having a yummy pidgeon pie at home and scaring them as a crazy woman would in the Square. It also got me a few stares from girls which was mildly appreciated.God bless you all my baby blues!

Simon
Nottingham
9th July 2002
pigeons

We have stopped feeding birds via the bird table in our garden because the greedy,dirty pigeons devour all the food we put out for the proper birds, they also bully the other feeding birds. so I support any idea to get rid of thesse pests

ken adams
west bridgford nottm
8th July 2002
What would be left ?

I think most people are in agreement that mankind is the ruin of the earth. The way that some parents allow their children to throw sweet wrappers with wanton abandenment will always amaze me. What on earth are schools for if not to educate these little cherrubs in keeping our streets tidy. It can be done as we can see in other countries, even to the point of banning the sale of chewing gum as they have in Singapore. What has this to do with pidgeons i hear you say. Well i do believe that we as a race will learn to othercome the distuction of our world through education and long term prison sentences(close the door and throw away the key). This will once and for all stop re - offenders. As far as pidgeons are concerned if their were no humans to stop the tide of pidgeon production. They would keep on cr***ing and sh**ing anywhere and everywhere they please. and eventually cover the whole of the earth in pidgeon poo where no other life could grow and the planet would become extinct, thus killing the whole human race all the animals all the plants and themselves. so let us save the world "kill a pidgeon a day to keep extinction at bay"

Steve
Mansfield, Notts
6th July 2002
Pigeons

I can't believe some of the sadistic comments made by some people re pigeons. These people should get a life and be more concerned about the actions of humans in our society - rape, murder, violence to name a few! I feed the pigeons every day and have yet to be hit with poop and even if I was, so what, I'll wash it off. People are the real problem in this world not some innocent birds!

Pam
Halifax, NS, Canada
3rd July 2002
i think they should be cared for

I think pigeons should be shot by farms because they make a big mess on the hay with their poop. but i also know that many people hate them because they make a big mees but ITS NOT THEIR FALT thats just the way their body is like we digest slow and they digest quickly so i think the population should go down but still have some because i raise pigeons and they are buitiful birds with their wings and all.

DOUG
Youngsville,N.Y, U.S.A
3rd July 2002
pidgeons

thay helped us during the war flying with vital messagis so thay have done well leave them allone

a keeper off pidgeons
north east england
2nd July 2002
pidgeons

I tried everything - spraying them, shooting water, etc. This works so far (it did yesterday, hopefully it will continue!). Cut out an evil looking bird from black paper and hang it from a thread over the area they are infesting. I think they don't like what appears to be a crow! Will keep you posted!

Phyllis
Toronto, Canada
1st July 2002
pigeons
I,d like to know what part of Nottingham city hasn,t got pigeon muck on the pavements phil b of Arnold Nottingham Ive seen plenty when Ive visited the city unless they clean it special for you to walk the streets

Linda
mansfield
1st July 2002
PIGEONS
I personally wouldnt hurt but if people see what I see sometimes in Mansfeild they would be shocked pigeons swoop down at people Ive even seen pigeons take food out of childrens hands and make the child screem and cry I don,t beleive that we should kill all the pigeons in town but try and cut the number of them down and not forgetting that they do carry desease

Lucy
mansfeild
28th June 2002
dirty pigeons
pigeons are the most discustingly dirty retarded animals ever who have no life or aim in life except to steal the peoples food and harass them they are dirty mingin unhygenic things who are multiplying before our very eyes we have to kill them all before we let them take over! KIL KILL KILL

rachel johnson
sheffield
25th June 2002
The revenge is theirs!

Whilst having a nice drink with friends yesterday a pigeon decided to release its tiny bladder & urinated on my jacket. Prior to this I thought they were harmless creatures and should be able to roam the earth unharmed. Now i think they should be shot, culled and got rid off in the vilest of ways possible. BEGONE WITH THOSE BLASTED THINGS!

Chris Peedon
london
25th June 2002
pigeons, i luv em

i have been in nottingham for 20 years. I find pigeons to be very affectionate animals, they give me pleasure

tim parker
nottingham

Last reply.. 24th June 2002
pigeons

i cannot beleive Fran in hong kongs attitude we should live and let live why should we think ourselves so superior i think that there should be room on earth for all species as well as pigeons.

christine savidge
nottingham uk

In reply to Christine Savage...
Pcha!! Where did that come from, it seems a little strange that you have picked my message inparticular to comment on when i had very little to say on the subject of pigeons. I was more outraged by the lack of humanity towards fellow human beings. I was peaking out against those who could not 'live and let live' in regards to those who are less fortunate than themselves. As this forum was on the subject of pigeons i merely though it was oppropriate to state that i don't really have any feelings either way in regard to the pigeons. I do not find them a particular nuisence as i have no problems with birds of any kind, however i can see why other people have problems with them because of phobias or a distinct dislike to being pooed on. I may not have put my feelings across clearly enough, i believe that it is inhumaine to kill the pigeons for no reason and in a bloodthurs! ty mannar. However if people were proposing to eat them then it would be fair enough, how are the pigeons any different from wood pigeon or chickens. Unless you have activly expressed your views again phesant hunting or perhaps even the mistreatment, torture killing of your fellow human beings then you sympathy for pigeons is a little hypacrytical don't you think? What also bothers me about your comment is that you singled out my posting which particular message was on my feelings towards big issue sellers when their are far more extreeme views on the irradication of pigeons by others on this board. Not once did is say i believed it to be right to masacre the pigeons.

fran
Hong Kong (ex and soon to be again nottingham)
21st June 2002
pigeon

if you kill the pigeons what next....each other?

the bird man of nottingham
notts
19th June 2002
I LOVE PIGEONS

I think pigeons should be left to the natural desire as we humans are. I am a rolf harris support worker and believe that these creatures are truely magnificent. Many T.V Celebrities i hear are pigeon fanciers..Vanessa Feltz and Arch Bishop Desmond Tutu to name a few have all been sucombed by these flying pecking princes! Long Live the Pigeon!!!!

Richard Neville Wright
Staincliffe - Dewsbury
18th June 2002
I cannot hide my frustration with this speakout section. While giving the public an opportunity to air their views on pigeons, I believe the subject has not been approached particularly seriously. Pigeons can, of course, be a source of amusement or trauma but this is not their purpose. They're especially useful on farms as they can help to soften soil and enhance plant growth. They carry certain bacteria which can help promote the emulsification of fat and dung. In all honesty pigeons have served nature a darn sight more than most of the people here. I am completely indifferent to pigeons, but can see that their culling may lead to a wider problem for humanity and other species. Why can nobody else see this? This isn't a game, this is nature.

Darren Cornstein
Hampshire

18th June 2002
pigeon disease

According to Professor Bernard Manning..pigeon disease develops with a tickly cough..Blocking off the thorax leading to the lungs and growing unsightly feathers from Bronichole to the tounge...if this occurs you need to extract the feathers with plyers and disinfect the area with dettol...however the feathers can be used for attractive rnimental cushions... viva la pigeon!

Elizabeth Anne Wright
Dewsbury-Capital of Wakey

(yeah, right - Ed.)

17th June 2002
Pegion Disease????

Iv'e been reading your posts, I really have nothing agains Pegions, but would like to ask a question. What types of diseases do pegions carry that can be given to humans? My brother-in-law was just diagnosed with Pegion Disease. Does anyone have any idea where i can find informaion on this, or know what it is. It has to do with the lungs. Thanks

Anita
Pennsylvania, USA
15th June 2002
One in the eye for pigeons

I am a trained circus performer but as work is slow at the moment I often travel to the centre of London to entertain the tourists and earn a bit of extra money. Two months ago I was entertaining the crowds at Trafalgar Square when a pigeon related incident occured that has soured my opinion of these feathered devils. Mid-way through my 'balancing sunflower seeds on my eyes' trick (always popular with children and the elderly), I was horrified to find several of the winged heathens tearing at my face with their beaks and clawed feet. Not only did I lose an eye, an ear and most of my nose, but the majority of my carefully applied clown make-up had been removed. Whereas I used to be a happy-go-lucky entertainer, I now find that I am a bitter, twisted individual. Scarred both physically and mentally by these scum-of-the-earth birds. Pure evil.

CoCo Bellamy
London
15th June 2002
Pigeons

I'm with doughnut man on this one. Pigeons are no more than flying rats and should be treated in the same way. However, I agree that they are a by-product of the lack of respect show to our town centres by the human scum that inhabit them and litter the streets in food products and other rubbish. Surely it is more sensible to eradicate the cause rather than deal with the result?? I beleive that the neutering of the lower classes that are to blame for anti-social behaviour such as littering and claiming welfare. If their numbers were kept low by limiting their indicriminate breeding, pigeons would all but become extinct - or at least move to France where the locals are happy to live in all manner of s**t.

Pie Man
London W6
15th June 2002
Pigeons - mmmm

I race pigeons up in Yorkshire with my whippets and flat cap. You cant kill them...where would I be without my racing birds?? Id have to move darn south and get a proper job!

Northern Monkey/Village Idiot
North of M25
14th June 2002
Pigeons Hats

I think this is a little unfair. I visit Nottingham a lot and do agree that the Pigeons are a problem. Horrid dirty nuisances! some control measures are needed.

Doughnut Man
London
14th June 2002
Should Pigeons be shot?

Vermin? Pests? I think not!! Pigeons have been around for thousands of years...Both old and young get joy from these beautiful creatures...you only have to watch pigeon street and catch the pigeon to see how idolised these creatures are....In my opinion it should be the donut man that should be shot!

Chris Byrne
Clapham, London
14th June 2002
Pigeon attack

I was attacked by pigeoni last week when I visited Nottingham. Why, when I approach with a handful of sunflower seeds do they attempt to break off my arms? They are impolite, ill-mannered and inconsiderate. These are savage beasts and, for the good of humanity, should be culled or buried along with doughnut man.

Ban Kay
Ealing, England
12th June 2002
Pidgeons

I think pidgeons are secretly ruling the world and venus is better than mars doughtnut man

A. Cow
Venus
11th June 2002
pigeons

Considering that the population explosion amongst pigeons is caused by the urban environment we've created, it would be irresponsible not to care for the pigeon population - and managing their numbers is a good way to do it. With managed herds of deer and other animals, culling improves the quality of life for the majority of the herd. With pigeons, many of them would fall to predators in a natural setting - but towns are not natural and so the pigeons are out of balance. Humanely killing some of them will restore a modicum of balance. Also, humanely killing some of the people posting on this board may well raise the average standard of literacy skills in this country. Punctuation? Spelling? Grammar? Thanks for giving me a laugh, but maybe you should get someone else to proof read your entry before letting the whole world rad your babblings.

Chief Wiggum
Brighton, UK

11th June 2002
pidgeons
i rescued a ferel baby pidgeon from mansfield,i hand fed it and he grew up to be a beautiful bird,he can go whenever he wants but he chooses to be with us,even though there are two pidgeon coups near by.i was very surprised how inteligent,loving and trusting these animals are,he follows my daughter and i everywhere,he loves my daughter very much,he gets excited when it time for her to get home from school and meets her as she comes down the road.they are not dirty animals he loves having a bath and preens himself regulary,cleaner than a lot of humans,i feel very proud to have him living with my family and would not like to loose him,its made me look at pidgeons in a very differant light,so give them all a chance,they have as much right to be here as we have,god anybody would think we own this planet,long live pidgeons.

julie
mansfield nottinghamshire england

8th June 2002
pigeons

it is wrong to kill nottinghams pigeons.they say they make a mess.what about the litter people throw about.

pearl veikens
nottingham
6th June 2002
pigeons

i'm a young bird fancier and i have had the interested in pigeons for a few years! I think street pigeons should be cut down but not all pigeons are diseased! People treat there pigeons for diseases so they will be in the best condition for racing! You idoits that think pigeons are scum maybe we should sent you to spain and we could hopefully lose you. Pigeons have more brains than people in this world! I think we should cart the idoits of this world, 500 miles away from there home and ask them to travel without sign posts! Can you do this because pigeons can!

lee curtis
Diss, England
3rd June 2002
pigeons

the litter and fast food junk that people throw down make us humans a lot more trouble than the pigeons,as far disease is concerned i think humans are the biggest spreader of all. these little creatures won more dicken,s medals in the war saving soldiers lives than any other animal the dicken,s medal is the animals V.C of course like the soldiers these things are forgotten by the majority of people to-day shame on them

raymond mcaleenon
lisburn
31st May 2002
Pidgeons

gwen, you need a life and SHORT ARTICLES

Doughnut Man
Mars
31st May 2002
A lovley piegon has arrived at my house a few days ago.No doubt a lovely bird.I would love to get him back to his owner.Can you help please ? On his left leg he has blue ring and above it a red one.On his right leg a purple one with the numbers C025B (I think).

RJ
Donegal Ireland
29th May 2002
Pigeons

My delightful next door neighbour has taken it upon himself to erect a pigeon cree in his back garden. we are not talking a large back garden here, mid terrace adjoining fields. His pigeons have taken to resting on our gable end roof top and s*g all over our garden, roof, windows. Can anyone advise me whether it would be illegal to shoot, poison or commit any other ultimate measure to get rid of these filthy creatures while on my property? (I'd like to do the same to the neighbour but alas I am aware of the legal implications of such measures against him).

Rab
durham
25th May 2002
Those foul pigeons

Feed the little devils... but make sure all the food is laced with chemicals to suppress the laying of eggs. If this is done in every city centre and places where pigeons are considered a menace, then the numbers should drop. Failing that shoot the damned things, and give cats the same treatment!

CS
Nottingham
21st May 2002
pigeons

I cannot beleive that pigeons have a right to live, given that they are not only secretly taking over the planet, but are getting more and more aggresive and sneaky in their own @$%&* post dinosaur ways. Not only should all pigeons be shot, but so should all the crazed people whoose only purpose in life is feeding them every day.

Damien Omen
Sydney
18th May 2002
Pigeons

Send them all to me. I'm in Missouri, and I havent seen but 2 pigeons in my city. You may attach a note to their little sweet legs also if desired. I'll read and reply to each and every letter. ;)

Sis
Missouri, USA
18th May 2002
Pigeons

Chase them! it keeps you and them fit and healthy.

Liz
MK
18th May 2002
Pigeons deserve respect.........

I shoot wood pigeons! Who are nothing like ferel (normal) pigeons they are clean and are rarly in the city and they are very tasty. I dont shoot them so they die (although they do)but it is because they eat farmers crops and causes millions of pounds worth of dammage. I am an animal lover and have a respect for my quarry but if i see any feral pigeons i will be sure to kill it for all the tree huggers :)

Hunter
Glasgow
17th May 2002
Pigeons

P)igeion should be kept at an exceptable number. if peoplr stop feeding them it would quite a lot. If these people still persist then finde them under the litter laws.It is we the human animals that make this city filthy. Pigeons altho pretty looking birds carry the sam diseases that dogs have been accused of passing on to the human population their nest are infested with flees and lice. But after all their faults they should not be totally wiped uot THEY HAVE FOUND AN EASY WAY SURVIVING AND WE ARE THE CULPRITS.

John Hart
NOTTINGHAM
17th May 2002
Pigeons

I'll bet those little winged wonders are packed full of calorific value given all the carbohydrates and sugars they shovel down their ugly little gullets. Now here's the plan. What we do is to use the skyrats as a cheap and plentiful supply of energy with which to fire the power stations. This way we don't use up anymore valuable finite fossil fuel resources. Once the city squares have been depleted of this new fuel source we can always breed more in specialist plants i.e. The Greenwich Dome, Wembley Stadium etc. on the tonnes of waste food ejected daily from fast food outlets throughout Britain. Safer than nuclear power, more plentiful than the other renewable sources, this will lead to "electricity too cheap to meter" and herald a new golden age where Britain once again becomes the world superpower and England returns home with the 2006 World Cup, thus creating an explosion of the "feel good factor" to heights never before attained, where lame people walk again and the blind regain their sight. Job Done.

P. Nisse
Chesterfield
17th may 2002
Poor bloody things.

Jesus christ people, dont you think you're a little selfish? i think you should all step down and realise that humans are viruses. What the hell is wrong with them? They.. fly around.. shock freaking horror, thats what birds do. So they carry disease.. dont pick the bloody things up then. how many people fall ill because of the birds? umm.. 0? Why dont you quit complaining about them, and do something productive. if it bothers you that much why not build them somwhere to live. Sigh in bloody brackets. Sorry, am i being logical again?

Danny West
Hucknall, Nottingham
16th May 2002
pigeons

get rid of em all then maybe the councel will knock down the pigeon feeding area it built to keep a certain none tax paying section of the comunity happy.

bill Poster
walsall
14th May 2002
Pidgeons

Ok so Pidgeons can be a nuisance, pest and an iritation, but so are some of my friends and definitly my next door neighbour. Can I shoot them instead.

Bob
Moose
13th May 2002
Pigeons

Like it or not feral pigeons are a feature of most major city centres worldwide. However the Swiss are successfully tackling this problem by placing multiple nesting coops on the top of large inner city buildings and collecting the eggs, thus keeping numbers under control.This should be at least tried out as a pilot scheme. Smaller numbers of pigeons may improve their condition because at the moment they are definately a major health hazard. The sight of filthy club footed festering birds flying and landing on our children is sickening; would you go into town centres and allow hundreds of infested rats to crawl all over you?... because a pigeon is as dangerous as any rat. One last thing... people should take more pride in their cities and not drop litter or allow dogs to foul pavements. It seems the scum element of this country are hellbent on turning England into a third world cesspit. Fred Rydell - Nottingham

F.Rydell
Nottingham
13th May 2002
pigeons

shouldn,t there be room on earth for all species as well as humans what gives us the right to kill them there must be more humane ways and i think that sending the hawk into the sky to try and kill as many as possible is just barbaric 21st century it makes me wonder. more tolerance is needed i think. christine.

c.a.savidge
nottingham uk
13TH May 2002
Pigeons

Stone, Staffordshire, is a small town with a feral pigeon problem. Roofs are encrusted with pigeon dung and so too are the gutters of many of the town centre properties. And some thoroughfares are thickly covered with pathogen riddled pigeon dung when people use these thoroughfares first thing every morning, treading the potentially dangerous filth into food establishments, shops and offices. The pigeon problem has gone beyond simply a local issue because most local authorities have abdicated any responsibility for eradicating this health problem. It is now time for the issue to be put before parliament and a national eradication scheme put into action.

Barry Oakley
Stone, Staffordshire
10th May 2002
pigeons

pigeons, like all other animals have their place in the world and should be allowed to live. I don't have a problem with a small amount of humane pigeon control but to kill them mercilessely and reffer to these beautiful animals as flying rats is disgusting and moronic.Atleast they don't depleat the world's recources and pollute the air.To those like Tod, Dave and Helen Wilkinson, you sicken me with your stupidity and lack of understanding and you are worse than the filth I clean out of my pigeons cage.

justin
Toronto, Canada
9th May 2002
Pigeons

Does anyone out there know how to get rid of pigeons. My daughter lives in NY city and they are making a mess on her windows and porch..would like to find something to get rid of them

Betty Jo
springfield va
8th May 2002
Should we kill all the pigeons?

This is the funniest site on the internet! the one about the budgie made me cry with laughter.

LoL
Nottingham
7th May 2002
This is a stupid debate. Personally I don't know what all the fuss is about. They are pretty well trained, when you consider theres never any bird muck on the city streets. The problem is simply the endless people who throw their litter on the streets (the very same who start these stupid debates)- its no wonder we have so many of the birds- they must think its a free for all. You'll find if the food isn't there, then they won't continue the invasion. What gives us the right to wipe them out anyway?/there are other ways of controlling them.

PhilB
Arnold, Nottingham
6th May 2002
God's little creatures

Oh,dear ! Once again I have to put my views over to all these postings about PIDGEONS -- Good or bad ? So many have no other object in mind, except to rid the centre of these God's Creatures. Don't misunderstand me though, because I hate them very much and the only solution I can offer is to officially ban those pidgeon fanciers from bringing their old bread and suchlike into the city centre, and if they are seen feeding these birds then fine them. A similar situation arose in the coastal towns, where in some places the droppings from seagulls has absolutely spoiled the buildings,streets,houses,even cars on which the paintwork has been damaged. I was in the Brixham / Torquay area and saw they had erected signs telling visitors that feeding the seagulls was a council offence and prosecution would be effected. This has resulted in a less number of seabirds hanging around. You see, they dont just shoot them, they are deprived of scraps being thrown to them and they leave for better eating grounds. So come on the city fathers, put some signs up banning the feeding of these pests. If those 'fanciers' like feeding pidgeons so much then let them start off in their own back yards, and they will soon have 30 or 40 of them roosting on their own rooftops Yoiks tally-ho !

b.clyde
Wilford
6th May 2002
Bloody Pidgeons

I have lived in the UK for 10 months, having moved from Australia. To my disgust the city of London is overrun by Pidgeons and the mess they create is apalling. I cant believe the authorities dont kull them, and I'm amazed that some pathetic ** actually feed them! it's become obvious that they only survive because the people of London have no respect for their city, and discard their rubbish and food scraps in the streets, providing food for the vermin. I have been putting my slingshot to use, keeping the dirty *** off my window ledges.

Fozdick
Harlow
4th May 2002
why to not shoot pigions

I'm not aganst shooting pigions but still they are living things they feel pain too it is like you are shooting person if you will not shoot a person why shoot a pigion I hope you take time to read this and thing about this.

Gabriel Arciniega
Escondido
3rd May 2002
pidgeons

I am outraged by some of the anti-pidgeonist attitudes displayed by uisers such as Fest. Pidgeons rule, and in view of recent events in Hartlepool I think the people of Mansfield should fight back against such attitudes by electing a pidgeon as major.

Sig
London (ex-Nottingham)
3rd May 2002
pigeons

i dont think that killing all the pigeons in nottingham will solve any problems because they will just come to nottingham from other places

amy
nottingham
2nd May 2002
Vermin!

Get rid of the dirty beasts. They are disease with wings. Why would anybody choose to live with them pooing all over u when your shopping. Shoot them all!!!!!!!!!!

Fest
L.E Nottingham

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